I just bought two used b5m's with upgraded parts because they are so cheap right now. Upgrades alone cost way more than the whole car sold for. I would venture to say 80% of drivers won't turn faster lap times with the b6. That being said I have mine on pre order regardless. Going to make one super modded b5m for mod racing and see what can happen with the b6 completely stock with a 17.5 or a 13.5. I wish people wouldn't dump their b5ms so cheap. It'd be nice if the rollers would stay above 175 shipped, but I don't see them staying that high