I was trying to reproduce Ryan C. setup for the 2015 ROAR Natls. and on his setup sheet it says for springs "AE truck white" and he went to the med length lower spring cups I believe they are the 5mm in the manual. But looking at the pics of his truck in the desktop thing from the Associated web site it shows very long springs with the shock collars almost all the way up. I purchased a set of SC5M white springs assuming they were the "AE truck white" springs he was referring to, only to find out they are the same as the T5M springs my mistake there I didn't compare them. Does anyone have a part number for the actual springs he ran ? our next race is the 7 of Nov. and I'd like to get a set.