Tried the new dunford setup minus the shock pistons and oils(running the 2 hole still) on a dusty medium traction track. Overall im undecided if i like it. I do like the extra acceleration in a straight line. I liked the extra droop in the front as it made the front come down quicker in the air to get the front tires to land on the down side of every jump. The extra kick-up in combo with the extra droop did put more weight to the rear as the front end raise up under acceleration. Black springs and hubs all the way back did make the car more stable(all ready did this prior to the setup change). Car seemed like it had almost too much on power steering. More steering overall, just need a slight more stability so i can stand on it even more when needed without worrying about washout in a turn. Wish i had some lap time comparisons. Not sure if 5 in the center would help to get a little more stability. The car is almost there keep up dunford and casper!