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Old 02-16-2013, 09:34 PM
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Granpa
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Originally Posted by rcdave1
Lighter oil and if you have to much front droop in your shocks its letting to much weight transfer to the rear, but be careful taking to much droop out and you'll start making the rear to loose coming out of the corner on power.
This just doesn't happen. All M03's and M05's push under power. Don't believe me???? Try this experiment. Turn your wheels and apply power. If you don't chop power, the faster you go, the bigger circle you will run. That's a push or to the purists, understeer. Your Mini will not spin out or run smaller circles, which is a loose condition or oversteer. There will be no front to rear weight transfer under these conditions.

Originally Posted by axle182
No front sway bar and thick rear sway bar. Start there. Also double check your front droop. If your arms go past level on the front, you have too much droop, and your transfering all your weight off the front tires.

Do a single change at a time.
Here again, see the above. Also, the arms on my M05 are level with a front ride height of 4.5mm. with a brand new set of Tamiya S-Grips. The front ride height with a set of Swift premounts was 3mm or slightly less. The ride height was measured at the low point of the chassis which is a little forward of the motor on the M05 and just below the motor on the M03. The measuring devices were 6" lengths of drill rod 3, 4, and 5mm in diameter.

The level arms legend that is firmly rooted in Mini folklore was referring to the rear arms not the front. Most of the "modern" set ups will run the front arms slightly below level and the rear arms slightly above level especially on the M05.

You gave some good advice. Some of the reasoning was off IMO. Anyone reading this stuff can come to their own conclusions.
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