I am gonna run the K shocks for one practice session and see how they perform. At the very least, the springs xray has (the progs are sold out everywhere), I will have ot use kyosho springs with the xray shocks. One thing I noticed is the xray shocks are very very light compared to the others. My racing director commented that are they all plastics HAHA I can see where he comes from after looking again! On another note, the 6000 80C Ips are awesome, I think I had run times of around 20 minutes of hard driving on an orion 6.5 19 pinion, and I think I put back 5600 mAh in those suckers. The last lap was as punchy as the first! Throwing the nanos and gens ace for just practice now