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Old 07-27-2008, 02:47 AM
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The 100watt iron sounds like it might be a gun.. well they are only 100watts for an instant and it has a very small tip.. hard to transfer heat.

Costing more doesn't mean it's better.. most expensive irons are made for electronics like a poster above stated.. they have small tips.. you need a chisel like tip and 45w to 60w should do fine if using the right kind of solder. Deans solder if you can find it is really good stuff... but has a high silver content and takes a lot of heat.. Better is 60/40 lead/tin solder available from Radio Shack with rosin (flux) core. I recommend the .062 thickness.

I have used a 45w 900 degree iron from Sears/Craftsman ($10) and can solder just about anything I need to in R/C. New tips come in a pack for $2.99.

I too recommend a battery jig to rebuild the pack side-by-side rather than in the stick if you have to put 2 cells back on. If you need ShoeGoo to add to strengthen the pack.. you are probably crashing real hard way too often.

I agree that practice makes perfect is the way about it..


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One of the problems I've had in the past was a cold solder joint and holding the iron to the part too long. I started the method noted by Buddha - use flux, tin parts and iron, then solder parts together - the the results have been impressive. I can now get a solid solder joint very quick and with a lot less solder. So, long-story-short, the method works.
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This may have been mentioned already but I didn't see it; make sure you're not using lead-free solder.
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Originally Posted by Beeen
This may have been mentioned already but I didn't see it; make sure you're not using lead-free solder.
I know the "dangers" of handling lead...as for lead free I have been told it is harder to solder and is more prone to cold joints. I don't see the benefits...lead conducts better than tin.
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Originally Posted by SUNA
I know the "dangers" of handling lead...as for lead free I have been told it is harder to solder and is more prone to cold joints. I don't see the benefits...lead conducts better than tin.
.......or you could use Silver Solder......silver conducts better than either of the other two.
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Meh...2% silver.

Plus I can go anywhere and buy a 1lb 60/40 rosin core for ~$20.
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Started out using a 100/140watt gun building batts, deans solder. Was OK besides an ocassional bar joint that I could pop off and would have to redo.

Now use a weller 80watt iron with much bigger tip. Once I've got cells and bars pretinned, I'm on the cell prob less than a sec which is much, much less time than with the gun even at 140watts. Far stronger joints, better result.

I bought all the deans solder I could find - don't plan on running out. Taking the lead out of solder is just political correctness run amok. You'd have to solder 26hrs a day in a tiny confined space breathing only the fumes to see it buildup in your blood. Big bro saves us all again (and screws the product up for all of us), lol!
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This is a great thread, really helps.

Quick question, if I am not going to be soldering battery cells together (I'm using lipo packs) what would be the recomended wattage for an iron?

I want to be able to solder wires onto the motor, put connectors onto battery harnesses. Is 60W+ as stated above still recomended?

I can vouch that anything 25W or under is useless - my el-cheapo 25W iron is not crash hot (no pun intended)!

I can find quite a few soldering stations available locally around the 45W-55W level, but the only one over 60W is a 100W station and it quite pricey in comparision (more than double the 55W). Do I go for broke and get the 100W station?
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Originally Posted by riene5
This is a great thread, really helps.

Quick question, if I am not going to be soldering battery cells together (I'm using lipo packs) what would be the recomended wattage for an iron?

I want to be able to solder wires onto the motor, put connectors onto battery harnesses. Is 60W+ as stated above still recomended?

I can vouch that anything 25W or under is useless - my el-cheapo 25W iron is not crash hot (no pun intended)!

I can find quite a few soldering stations available locally around the 45W-55W level, but the only one over 60W is a 100W station and it quite pricey in comparision (more than double the 55W). Do I go for broke and get the 100W station?

Really IMHO unless you are regularly building battery packs and doing a lot of soldering a high wattage iron is unneccessary. A 40w iron is all that's needed for soldering motor wires and battery plugs. As long as you also purchase flux and 60/40 solder you should get along fine for what you're looking to do.
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