2005 Rule Book
02-07-2005, 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by Dawn Sanchez
you DQ'd somebody who's tag fell off during racing?
you DQ'd somebody who's tag fell off during racing?
There is a flaw though with the rule as compared to the construction of the armatures. The tag is fixed to the arm with a certain type of adhesive (vague, cause I don't know what it is). Motor spray does a good job at melting that adhesive. The reason what this rule is important is that it allow for an easier identification of the armature. But more importantly, it helps keep hand winds out stock/19T.
In my opinion, and according to the rule book, a loose tag is an automatic DQ.
02-07-2005, 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by Orange
IMO, A tad excessive.
But you on-road guy's are pretty anal about that tech stuff anyway.
Understandable for a regional championship race though.
IMO, A tad excessive.
But you on-road guy's are pretty anal about that tech stuff anyway.
Understandable for a regional championship race though.
02-07-2005, 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by Orange
I'm curious as to how it is determined the actual ride height? Is this determined in pre-tech or post tech or both? Do you drop the car from a certain height to get it to it's natural resting point? Do you just push the chassis down and let it come to it's natural ride height that way? How is this determined?
I'm curious as to how it is determined the actual ride height? Is this determined in pre-tech or post tech or both? Do you drop the car from a certain height to get it to it's natural resting point? Do you just push the chassis down and let it come to it's natural ride height that way? How is this determined?
Also, if a guy comes up with a pan car in pre-tech (Foam tires, right?) and passes the ride height check, races and comes back from the race and doesn't pass tech because of ride height, does either tech, pre or post, supercede the other?
My guess would be that if the car passes ride height in pre-tech then in post tech, that shouldn't even be checked. It is going to lose height with foam tires on it. No way around that. IMO, ride height should only be a pre-tech item.
I don't know, it seems to me that if a car that uses foam tires passes pre-tech in ride height then in post tech, ride height should not DQ a car. There should be tolerances to allow for tire wear in a foam tire class.
Just my thoughts. [/B]
My guess would be that if the car passes ride height in pre-tech then in post tech, that shouldn't even be checked. It is going to lose height with foam tires on it. No way around that. IMO, ride height should only be a pre-tech item.
I don't know, it seems to me that if a car that uses foam tires passes pre-tech in ride height then in post tech, ride height should not DQ a car. There should be tolerances to allow for tire wear in a foam tire class.
Just my thoughts. [/B]
If there were to be a rule change, if would need to clarify pre and post heat heights. Try explain a low chassis to a carpet track owner and who will fix the rips.....
02-07-2005, 01:53 PM
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rules are rules.. I agree.... I'm just one of those officials who allow benefit of doubt in most cases. I can't tell a manufacturer what kind of adhesive to use but I can expect a racer to check the tag before tech to ensure its secure.
02-07-2005, 06:58 PM
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Jim, Had a great time! 
everyone knows better than to wear a sox hat when i have calipers in my hands
everyone knows better than to wear a sox hat when i have calipers in my hands
02-07-2005, 10:19 PM
#67
ride height
The rules are intended to be followed as far as car specs before and after a race. The car should follow ride height minimums at the end of the race not just the beginning.
Tire wear should be accounted for before the race starts so you will pass tech at the end of the race. Same for wieght restrictions.
Some things can be accounted for in terms of race stiuations. And these situations must be taken into account by the race official. Let's say a shock pops off right at the finish line. Allow the driver to pop the shock back on before tech so the actual ride real hieght is measured. This is the intent of the rules as written.
Rick Wilson
Tire wear should be accounted for before the race starts so you will pass tech at the end of the race. Same for wieght restrictions.
Some things can be accounted for in terms of race stiuations. And these situations must be taken into account by the race official. Let's say a shock pops off right at the finish line. Allow the driver to pop the shock back on before tech so the actual ride real hieght is measured. This is the intent of the rules as written.
Rick Wilson
02-18-2005, 08:53 AM
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for pan cars, both ride height and weight have to be considered Pre and Post - we're supposed to be legal even after the run (and it's resulting tire wear).
Sean - you don't drop on-road cars. . . they don't like that.
You just push them down and let them rebound to their natural resting state.
Sean - you don't drop on-road cars. . . they don't like that.
You just push them down and let them rebound to their natural resting state.
03-06-2005, 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by RC Driver Gary
Forgive me if this has been addressed already, but I heard that ROAR was considering allowing ball bearings in stock motors. Can someone update the status of this?
Forgive me if this has been addressed already, but I heard that ROAR was considering allowing ball bearings in stock motors. Can someone update the status of this?
8.5.4.1 The armature shafts of stock motors must turn in bushings only. The use of any device or attachment that allows the output shaft of a stock motor to ride in a ball bearing is strictly prohibited.
03-06-2005, 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by RC Driver Gary
Forgive me if this has been addressed already, but I heard that ROAR was considering allowing ball bearings in stock motors. Can someone update the status of this?
Forgive me if this has been addressed already, but I heard that ROAR was considering allowing ball bearings in stock motors. Can someone update the status of this?
Gary - give me a call... I'll find the answer to your question. Just returned from the Excom meeting and this topic did NOT come up...
03-24-2005, 02:31 PM
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the online version of the rule book has been updated - printed addendums will be in future rule books mailed out to the membership.
http://www.roarracing.com/rules/pdfs...les3.21.05.pdf
http://www.roarracing.com/rules/pdfs...les3.21.05.pdf
03-24-2005, 07:38 PM
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WOW.... I just found my 2003 membership card and rule book.....
Interesting reading about officials required at diferent levels....
And the suggested aditional attendees......
Now I'm gonna have to download the 2005 version and read it too.... I figure if I'm gonna open my big mouth then I'd better know the rules!!!
Interesting reading about officials required at diferent levels....
And the suggested aditional attendees......
Now I'm gonna have to download the 2005 version and read it too.... I figure if I'm gonna open my big mouth then I'd better know the rules!!!
03-25-2005, 07:50 AM
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LOL... always a good place to start.....
(just kidding, trying to add some humor )
(just kidding, trying to add some humor
)