6-Pole Motor, TenShock, Reliable? Timing?
#1
6-Pole Motor, TenShock, Reliable? Timing?
I have only ever used 4-pole motors on all of my 1/10 and 1/8 scale rigs. They are mostly Leopard sensorless motors which have worked very well for me. I also have an RC8.2e buggy with a sensored Tekin T8 (original Gen 1) that is very powerful and smooth as silk. I'm happy with all of those motors.
I just purchased an upgraded (used) Associated Rival MT that needs a motor and ESC. I'm half-way tempted to purchase a Tenshock X802L V2 (sensorless) motor, size 4274 and run it with a 150a Hobbywing EZRun ESC just to see if I can feel any difference. The motors cost about $100, so price is not an issue - it seems very fair. The Hobbywing ESC is a no-brainer to me because it's what I use on everything, even with the Tekin sensored motor (XERUN 150A).
Has anyone here run Tenshock motors on anything? I wonder how reliable they are. Also, I read a few reports that the 6-pole design can actually confuse an ESC and cause problems. I supposed that could be a timing issue. If someone has experienced this and sorted it out, I'd love to hear about it.
Your advice is sought and appreciated.
I just purchased an upgraded (used) Associated Rival MT that needs a motor and ESC. I'm half-way tempted to purchase a Tenshock X802L V2 (sensorless) motor, size 4274 and run it with a 150a Hobbywing EZRun ESC just to see if I can feel any difference. The motors cost about $100, so price is not an issue - it seems very fair. The Hobbywing ESC is a no-brainer to me because it's what I use on everything, even with the Tekin sensored motor (XERUN 150A).
Has anyone here run Tenshock motors on anything? I wonder how reliable they are. Also, I read a few reports that the 6-pole design can actually confuse an ESC and cause problems. I supposed that could be a timing issue. If someone has experienced this and sorted it out, I'd love to hear about it.
Your advice is sought and appreciated.
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The 4-Pole motor is standard practice and does a great job. I for one would not worry about trying to run a 6-Pole motor for any reason beyond the novelty of it. At the very least I can not see it easing up the demand on the ESC or battery, I would imagine that heat would be a real fear.
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I have a 2150 kv 6-pole motor in my LX2e monster buggy thing and it's awesome. Doesn't run hot unless I'm really lacing into it in taller grass. Love it. I'm running it with a Trackstar Gen. II 150a ESC on 4s. Wonderful motor, no problems with it. IIRC, a lot of people have trouble running a 6-pole motor with higher voltage batteries (5s, 6s, etc.). Some ESCs, at that voltage, have trouble with controlling the motor phases and reach a premature throttle limit then act up. If you're running 4s, I don't think you'll have any trouble.
#4
I have a 2150 kv 6-pole motor in my LX2e monster buggy thing and it's awesome... IIRC, a lot of people have trouble running a 6-pole motor with higher voltage batteries (5s, 6s, etc.). Some ESCs, at that voltage, have trouble with controlling the motor phases and reach a premature throttle limit then act up. If you're running 4s, I don't think you'll have any trouble.
Since he was using the Tenshock branded 6-pole motor, he wrote to the manufacturer. They wrote back and gave him some ideas about timing and gearing. According to them, the timing needs to be higher for a buggy but lower for a truggy or monster truck. He was running a monster truck, so he played around with the timing and ended up at a rather low timing of 5 using stock gearing. The result was a good running motor that was a bit warmer than his leopard, under the same conditions, but also a bit stronger. He said it was not an in-your-face night-and-day difference, though. It was subtle. That's not worth it to me, so I think I may just stick with my tried and true 4-pole motors.
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You're welcome. If I was going to do it again, I'm not sure if I would go with the motor that I did. It was a great deal and that's why I jumped on it and don't get me wrong, I'm glad that I did. I bought it before I knew that 6-pole motors can cause issues with ESCs, I got lucky that my combo works. If you want a system that's guaranteed to work right, your best bet might be to stick with a 4-pole. IIRC, most of the accounts of 6-pole motors acting up were with Hobbywing ESCs although I don't remember which model specifically.