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Old 08-01-2014, 10:30 AM   #1
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Is this item any good , ???? worth the money ???? Can motors be improved by using one .
How users friendly is it. Is there an independent review any where ???

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Is this item any good , ???? worth the money ???? Can motors be improved by using one .
How users friendly is it. Is there an independent review any where ???

Txs In advance.
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I have yet to get enough data that is comparable. I am finding that its ability to provide actual timing is helpful - especially if you have several motors of the same brand that you want to get in the same ballpark.

The unit can be an asset for a motor head that already has experience in using rotor strength meter, inductance meters for stators and a load-based dyno.

Totally user friendly but it is to early to get good understanding of how to use the data to evaluate a motors performance.

Worth the money?

I would start with tools that measure stators and rotors first.

As a motor guru shared - nothing beats a solid stator. Finding strong rotors is a plus.

Then, some version of a load based dyno (a little bit of work but it is the Competition Electronics Dyno converted to test B/L motors) to see how the stator + rotor work together.

The Motolyser is a good tool. Hopefully will become more feature rich once more R&D kick in. It is valuable that the unit can be updated by the user.

I think a detailed Motolyser 101 from Jim Dieter would help pros/cons.
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Josh Cyrul has a YouTube video posted.

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I have yet to get enough data that is comparable. I am finding that its ability to provide actual timing is helpful - especially if you have several motors of the same brand that you want to get in the same ballpark.

The unit can be an asset for a motor head that already has experience in using rotor strength meter, inductance meters for stators and a load-based dyno.

Totally user friendly but it is to early to get good understanding of how to use the data to evaluate a motors performance.

Worth the money?

I would start with tools that measure stators and rotors first.

As a motor guru shared - nothing beats a solid stator. Finding strong rotors is a plus.

Then, some version of a load based dyno (a little bit of work but it is the Competition Electronics Dyno converted to test B/L motors) to see how the stator + rotor work together.

The Motolyser is a good tool. Hopefully will become more feature rich once more R&D kick in. It is valuable that the unit can be updated by the user.

I think a detailed Motolyser 101 from Jim Dieter would help pros/cons.
I know you'll be getting one MDawson....I be bringing by my motors...

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It actually works very well. Especially for finding the true timing of a motor. You should be able to set all your motors to the same timing now to see how they run. There is quite a bit of variance in the sensor boards!

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I am an actual owner Looking for some enhancements soon.
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I think a detailed Motolyser 101 from Jim Dieter would help pros/cons.
Great idea, a little more In depth approach from the pro would get me off the fence
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I am an actual owner Looking for some enhancements soon.
Anyone have these in stock?
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I saw this motor checker is not as sophisticated but also provides actual timing readouts http://www.redrc.net/2014/08/gforce-...er/#more-85389
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I got mine from Trinity today. With the "upgraded wire" kit... same wires included in the box... well almost, the box had two black wires and no blue. So stay away from that particular "upgrade".

I tested it on some of my motors tonight.

R1 V7 21.5 - Phase A, B and C - not even close, brand new, never run before, factory 0 - read 35

Schuurspeed Extreme Spec 17.5 v3 - brand new, never run before. factory setting 35 - read 40

Speed Passion Competition 3.0 MMM - brand new, never run before. Red timing board (+10), so said 30, read 43-45

LRP Stock spec X20 21.5 - used. 37.5 timing insert, read at 40.

Trinity Killshot High RPM 21.5 - used (TA06), timing at 55, read at 40. Then at 0, read -7

Trinity Killshot High RPM 21.5 - used (TB04), timing at 50, read at 35. Then at 0, read -8

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My killshots read similar, it would be very cool if more motolysers started sharing. I'll keep mine in my pitbox when I'm at Tamiya, we could compare motolysers as well. make sure they read the same.
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The ability to find the true motor timing and set it equally for each motor is the unit's best feature.
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Have you used one yet? Ive been told it only runs it in sensorless mode and the timing isnt very accurate when measured. I do not know if this is true or not. It kinda would make sense as Ive turned one up to where it showed over 70 degrees timing and it never stuttered on the machine.


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For That price your better off getting the MMS, RMS, and you have enough money to pick up the brushless motor checker. Looks like they might be a new one if they are asking about voting on up dates and what they could do to make it better..
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Have you used one yet? Ive been told it only runs it in sensorless mode and the timing isnt very accurate when measured. I do not know if this is true or not. It kinda would make sense as Ive turned one up to where it showed over 70 degrees timing and it never stuttered on the machine.

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It is sensored only. In fact it alerted me to a bad sensor board on my never run speed passion. BC were always on and A kept flicking on. When I went to test the motor it refused to turn it because sensor connection was bad.

So the "Sensor status" is a good diagnostic feature to see if your sensor board or wire has "gone bad".

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