Go Back  R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Radio and Electronics
Can you use a lipo out of the box? >

Can you use a lipo out of the box?

Can you use a lipo out of the box?

Old 07-16-2014, 04:01 PM
  #1  
Tech Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: OC,CA
Posts: 74
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default Can you use a lipo out of the box?

Alright so I just bought my first brand new fresh lipo and it was delivered about an hour ago. I know lipos are pretty touchy and do come 80% charged from the store out of the box. I have a charger on order from HobbyKing international and looks like it's still at least a week or 2 out from being delivered.


My question is, is it safe to plug in and bind my controller and even maybe get a couple minutes of run time before charging it? Or will that drain the battery life and not good for it?

I know these are touchy, I googled and found a ton of questions about Lipos and charging but found nothing about running them from the factory/store pre self charge.


So, plug in and bind before charge? Safe or not?


Get a few laps on fresh non self charged battery? Safe or not?
Ck_32 is offline  
Old 07-16-2014, 04:07 PM
  #2  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (68)
 
ThePanda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,201
Trader Rating: 68 (100%+)
Default

I would balance it and charge it before you do anything else. In theory it should be ok, But it would be good just to check cell voltage and balance levels first, just in case they are off. Which if they are to much could lead to bad things.
ThePanda is offline  
Old 07-16-2014, 04:10 PM
  #3  
Tech Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: OC,CA
Posts: 74
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by ThePanda
I would balance it and charge it before you do anything else. In theory it should be ok, But it would be good just to check cell voltage and balance levels first, just in case they are off. Which if they are to much could lead to bad things.
Yea that's kind of what I figured but had to ask because from the looks of it no one has asked before... At least from what google brought up.


But dam it's going to be hard as hell to not plug his thing in for 2 weeks till my charger gets here. Last thing I need is that stupid charger lol
Ck_32 is offline  
Old 07-16-2014, 04:18 PM
  #4  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (68)
 
ThePanda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,201
Trader Rating: 68 (100%+)
Default

pluggin in to bind receivers and such should be ok, as it puts so little load on the cells, but running the car is probably a bad idea.
ThePanda is offline  
Old 07-16-2014, 06:13 PM
  #5  
Tech Champion
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,342
Default

They usually come new at closer to 50% charged. Also known as storage charge.
Dave H is offline  
Old 07-16-2014, 07:10 PM
  #6  
Tech Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: OC,CA
Posts: 74
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Ok so I took it to my local track and they helped me get it bound. Took another battery. But now if I turn the wheel 3 times back and forth it shuts off. I'm running a SR201 with a RX8 ESC and a 4600kv Tekin motor.


One shop guy said it's the cheap reciever and RTR controller. The Avox servo I have is pulling way too much amperage for them. But one shop says it's the ESC cutting off and the ESC can't support the Avox.


What is it the cheap reciever cutting out or the RX8 ESC....? I just want this stupid thing to run.

Oh and we used a full powered Gen ACE battery when we bound it.
Ck_32 is offline  
Old 07-16-2014, 07:39 PM
  #7  
Tech Master
iTrader: (3)
 
TOM MAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Posts: 1,060
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Which esc? (RX8?) that should be ok

A Savox servo? Which one?

Last edited by TOM MAR; 07-16-2014 at 10:47 PM.
TOM MAR is offline  
Old 07-16-2014, 10:50 PM
  #8  
Tech Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: OC,CA
Posts: 74
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by TOM MAR
Which esc? (RX8?) that should be ok

A Savox servo? Which one?
Savox 1268 with a Gen1 RX8

Now this thing won't connect... My RX8 keeps flashing (No radio signal) so I tried to rebind it and again I can't get this thing to pick up my tx to the rx.


RX rapid blinks, turn on radio, stops blinking (trying to bind), blinks twice, then goes into rapid blinking again. While my RX8 still flashes all lights (No signal)
Ck_32 is offline  
Old 07-16-2014, 11:43 PM
  #9  
Tech Master
iTrader: (3)
 
TOM MAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Posts: 1,060
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

The 1268 is a high amp draw servo. Check the specs on this link, & the (*note )

http://www.amain.com/product_info.ph...o-High-Voltage

Hopefully the receiver is not toast, that does not sound good.
TOM MAR is offline  
Old 07-17-2014, 01:57 AM
  #10  
Tech Master
iTrader: (17)
 
Yosh70's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sask. Canada
Posts: 1,618
Trader Rating: 17 (100%+)
Default

Try binding without the servo connected to the receiver. That should narrow it down for you.

An external BEC sounds like its in order if you cant adjust the voltage in the ESC.
Yosh70 is offline  
Old 07-17-2014, 09:32 AM
  #11  
Tech Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: OC,CA
Posts: 74
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

So can I use one of those $5 can type glitch busters on top of a BEC?

I know essentially they do the same thing but one is more powerful than the little plug in. But can you double them up or should I just invest in a full BEC?
Ck_32 is offline  
Old 07-17-2014, 01:44 PM
  #12  
Tech Master
iTrader: (3)
 
TOM MAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Posts: 1,060
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Like Yosh70 said, Try binding without the servo connected to the receiver.

If the rec. will bind then the servo is pulling to many amps for the rec 's circuit board to handle. I would go with an external bec.

Last edited by TOM MAR; 07-18-2014 at 12:27 AM.
TOM MAR is offline  
Old 07-17-2014, 11:04 PM
  #13  
Tech Master
iTrader: (17)
 
Yosh70's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sask. Canada
Posts: 1,618
Trader Rating: 17 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Ck_32
So can I use one of those $5 can type glitch busters on top of a BEC?

I know essentially they do the same thing but one is more powerful than the little plug in. But can you double them up or should I just invest in a full BEC?
I'm not sure if you understand completely.....a BEC is a circuit thats built into the ESC to power your servos and receiver. Most newer ESC's have adjustability in the software that you can boost the BEC voltage. An adjustable EXTERNAL BEC is a different component that you wire in and eliminate the stock BEC built into the ESC. Its usually software programmable and will draw power from your lipo to safely power your electronics.

A glitch buster (basically a capacitor) plugs into your aux port on your receiver and stores energy to boost the voltage when your servo is trying to draw more power that your BEC can provide. Its cheaper than an external BEC and more or less plug and play.

Hope that helps.
Yosh70 is offline  
Old 07-19-2014, 11:23 AM
  #14  
Tech Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: OC,CA
Posts: 74
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Alright so I finally got it all figured out.


The first issue was my controller had dead batteries, reason why it wouldn't bind. Second I finally took my car to the shop where they confirmed it was a bad glitch issue and recommended a BSE because it's pulling way to much for a glitch buster. Well I went home and found a old 25v 2500uh capacitor and hooked it up to some leads. Plugged it in and whala! Fixed it! I can't even get this to glitch out anymore.

Glad I tried it than running the BEC cause the shop kids said a buster wouldn't fix it since it was cutting out so bad and fast. But I think the beefed capacitor was large enough internally knocked it

So lesson is always try a cheap glitch busted first kids! Lol

Last edited by Ck_32; 07-20-2014 at 12:12 PM.
Ck_32 is offline  

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.