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Old 05-19-2010, 09:35 PM
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Just like with brushed motors the "T" is for turns. The less turns or lower the number the faster the motor. BTW a 3.5t is insane fast.
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The "T" stands for turns. This is the number of times the wire inside the motor is wrapped around the stator. A smaller number of turns typically equals less resistance, and more power. A higher number typically means more resistance, and less power. The factors can get extremely complicated, but thats a basic idea.
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Originally Posted by MTown701
hah i have a 3.5t in my b4 its the 5700 kv sidewinder, but now the esc wont turn on or if it does turn on it shuts off during use
I'm not sure the sidewinder is rated down to a 3.5t which is rated around 10,500 kv depending on the motor.

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Yea there is no way a sidewinder can handle a 3.5t. My mamba monster can't even do that without over heating.
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A brushless 3.5T motor needs to be mated to at least a 120A (continuous) ESC to run efficiently. Anything less and the ESC will overheat and thermal often.
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All the new Castle 1/10th motors now say what turns they are.
My new 5700kv says it's a 3.5t right on the motor, the 9000kv now says it's a 2t.
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Castle now quotes the equiv turns on their site in each ad for each motor. They don't agree with what you're seeing on the motor though - the 5700 says "The 5700Kv motor is roughly equivalent in top speed to a very good 9t or 10t brushed motor on 6 cells."


http://www.castlecreations.com/products/cms36-5700.html


There's a similar statement in each of their motors.
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Originally Posted by Lazer Guy
All the new Castle 1/10th motors now say what turns they are.
My new 5700kv says it's a 3.5t right on the motor, the 9000kv now says it's a 2t.
There are also several ways to wrap those 3.5 turns of wire. The mamba motors use a slotless design compared to the more standard slotted design of ROAR legal stock brushless motors. The 3.5 turn 5700kv castle motor is close to a 6.5-7.5 turn "roar" motor in power.
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Originally Posted by Duster_360
Castle now quotes the equiv turns on their site in each ad for each motor. They don't agree with what you're seeing on the motor though - the 5700 says "The 5700Kv motor is roughly equivalent in top speed to a very good 9t or 10t brushed motor on 6 cells."


http://www.castlecreations.com/products/cms36-5700.html


There's a similar statement in each of their motors.
They don't agree because there is not a direct relationship between brushed turns and brushless turns. Not to mention the wind style, delta vs. Y for example, slot vs. slotless design, etc.
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This is getting off point but while I don't have an issue with quality of CC stuff, I simply can't use it because they don't really follow the ROAR rules like everybody else. just $.02 in the kitty
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I understand that. I'm just a basher on the other side of the coin and I find Castle products have been 100% reliable for me. The only prob I've ever had with any of their stuff was a 1717 motor that mistakenly came with a 6mm shaft - Castle did resolve that at no cost to me.
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Is there a chart/table that compares brushed TURNS vs brushless TURNS vs brushless KV? It sounds like every manufacturer builds their motors differently; has someone put together a chart as an easy cross reference?

I am looking for a cheap and reliable brushless system to replace the stock electronics in my SC10 that will still let me run in a stock class. From what I have read, 27T is a typical brushed stock motor. 17.5T is a typical brushless stock motor. The new SC10 RTR - Brushless has a 3300kV brushless motor. Are these, 27T-17.5T-3300kV, all more or less the same rated motor?

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