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Old 07-16-2012, 05:27 AM   #9511
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Hi Guys i am going to do some setup sheets for the following v3 and 2.1v

Motors 4.5T 5.5T 8.5T 11.5T 13.5T 17.5T 21.5T

These will be basics sheets to get you started but will also perform as they should .
It would be fantastic if these were class specific too, i.e. 1:12th, 1:10th touring, 1:10th offroad

It would also be fantastic if rollouts were on there too, it takes hours to trawl through this thread to find where different classes should start

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Fake also? http://www.rc-mushroom.com/product_i...sc-red-p-25187

Funny because V3 should not available on the HK market
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Fake also? http://www.rc-mushroom.com/product_i...sc-red-p-25187

Funny because V3 should not available on the HK market
Why?
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:22 AM   #9514
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I don't know.Ask cobra
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Old 07-17-2012, 10:29 AM   #9515
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Cobra, I need your help:

In the class motor 10.5t (I have Ballistic and SP V3), which the maximum possible degree of advancement in the motor? Whereas Ballistic ranges from 15/45 and SP 0 to 10 .
I need to know the maximum degree, motor + esc timming, for the maximum RPM and the FDR more short.

For use on road, turing Cars, and V2 Xtreme Stock.

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Hobbywing filmware will add up to 64 degrees of timing.
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:10 PM   #9517
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but you're not considering the timming motor (physical timming) ...
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:14 PM   #9518
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my question is a limit, 64 + 45 motor timming = 109, understain? how far can I go?
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:48 PM   #9519
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Hobbywing filmware will add up to 64 degrees of timing.
Fail!
Hobbywing firmware will add 64 steps of timing. How many actual degrees these are, I don't know.

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my question is a limit, 64 + 45 motor timming = 109, understain? how far can I go?
Until it starts smoking.....
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:07 PM   #9520
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its ok!!
in my tests were 64 in ESC (50 + 14 turbo) and 20 in the physical motor = 84 in total timming. I believe the limit is 90, most likely to reach full RPM, Is it?
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:49 PM   #9521
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its ok!!
in my tests were 64 in ESC (50 + 14 turbo) and 20 in the physical motor = 84 in total timming. I believe the limit is 90, most likely to reach full RPM, Is it?
As M7H mentions, the ESC contributes 64 Steps of timing, not degrees. The steps divide up the total amount of timing available to be added. I'm not 100% certain, but I think it's around 0.6 of timing per step, which means a maximum of about 39-40 of actual timing the ESC can add.

As for your other question, the limit is certainly not 90, more like 60-64. At 90 the motor won't turn, as it won't know which way to spin (been there, done that with an old brushed motor!). Anymore than 65, you'll be adding heat for no real increase in power, and thats motors with high in-built timing levels combined with high levels of ESC timing tend to struggle (X12 anyone? )

Part of the idea of the dynamic ESC's is that as you increase the rev's, the motor naturally retards the timing (think about cyclinders firing in an engine). To keep the same timing level, you need to be 'firing' the coil earlier with each increase in rpm. And this is where the dynamic ESC's come in... as they add timing to compensate for when it's needed (i.e. up the rev range).. hence lots of power through the rev range

Bear in mind as well, adding motor timing add's time through out the whole rev range, not just the specific part of the band that's wanted... which is why you can't also really compare adding motor timing to adding ESC timing in terms of heat.

Anyway, sounds like your pretty close with your current settings... best way to test this all out is on the track.. make a change (add motor timing) and see what happens

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Fake also? http://www.rc-mushroom.com/product_i...sc-red-p-25187

Funny because V3 should not available on the HK market
And your point is ? Use this forum for information not for the days your bored .

anything you need please let us know .

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The point is there are a lot of contradictions here.First, that the V3 will be released as the hobbywing brand not any oem brand for atleast the first 6 months of the release and maybe longer (#5706) .This is not true as Hw has already released the V3 as an OEM for HPI and Yokomo(good for us).Second,It has been decided by the team of 4 Angelo,michael,Pan and Jack that the v3 will not be available from Hong kong especially for the 1st year of sales (#6429). RcMushroom & rcmarket already selling them (good for us too ) and the only thing you have to say is "good luck" if we buy from them.Thats my point.
Maybe the decision was more to not release them to the HK ebay market? I tried looking for "Hobbywing V3" on ebay and only saw 2 available, one from China and the other from the US.
However I did find a blatant knock off called "Hobbypower V3"
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hobbypowe...item3a774533f8

Funny thing is that at the bottom of the page they admit it is a copy with this little gem of a description.
"Attention: this product is not Hobbywing product,but as good as hobbywing, compatible all hobbywing program and software."

As good as Hobbywing?

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