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Old 06-21-2012, 01:34 AM   #9391
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Maybe it is asked before but i can't find it. I have a 120A v2.1 with v1.08_111007 And 211 stock version.

Should i upgrade to the newer version v1.11_120331_v3 or v1.08_120504? I gues the latter as in the descriptions it says it is for the v2.0 and v2.1 versions but is there a significant difference from the version i already have?
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:52 AM   #9392
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I suggest all the players to use the "PRINT SETTING" function in the new USB LINK SOFTWARE V3.1 (this version can deal almost every speedo from Hobbywing now) and paste the detailed settings here , this will greatly help to anwser your questions or problems.

Below is a sample I printed in USB LINK SOFTWARE V3.1 for a V2 speedo.
Attachment 937662
That's actually a very cool feature.
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Old 06-21-2012, 03:21 AM   #9393
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Maybe it is asked before but i can't find it. I have a 120A v2.1 with v1.08_111007 And 211 stock version.

Should i upgrade to the newer version v1.11_120331_v3 or v1.08_120504? I gues the latter as in the descriptions it says it is for the v2.0 and v2.1 versions but is there a significant difference from the version i already have?
NO. YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THAT.

for V2.1, 110930_STOCK is the latest. It is almost same to 0211_STOCK.
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:45 AM   #9394
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Hi Guys

Just some info for you guys when you do maintenance on your motors please always put every single part back in to the motor after you finish your clean or your upgrade of rotors.
why i say that as i did some testing today just looking deeper into this delay issue and found that by leaving out spacers and shims or even misalinged bearings etc the esc had a delay in the throttle like a skip into a higher gear etc (basically called a miss fire ) which in turn confuses the esc causing the delay to occur it seemed either the rotor was to close to the hall sensors or to far away from the sensors causing the delay .

Once i replaced the shims/spacers and spacers one by one which took alot of time putting the motor together then apart and so on the problem was gone.

Even when replacing the rotor to a smaller size or larger size or a new rotor or bearings etc please ask your motor manufacturer what are the measurements you need to know to align the rotor to the sensor board don't guess as by guessing thats when you get yourself self into strife and confused why you have the issues you are having .

thanks for you time ill post some measurements tomorrow of how close or how far the rotor needs to be from the sensor board .
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:49 AM   #9395
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Update again...................

Ok, so it seems like my problem isn't gone yet. On a fresh battery, it doesn't have the issue. Full throttle engages instantly and it has tons of response.

After about 3-4 mins, the problem will start. On the track, it's even worse than it was. From neutral, the car takes about 1 seconds to start rolling, then takes about another second to get to half throttle, then it finally goes full throttle. I ran three packs through it and it happened every time. Fresh pack, no throttle problems. 3-4 mins in, the problem starts.

I'm gonna try to just turn off the low voltage detection. I dont ever run beflow 3.8v anyway, so I'll be ok there. I had it at 3.4v, so it still shouldn't have engaged, but it doesn't hurt to try.

Edit: Ok, I turned the low voltage detection off. Now with a used battery, the problem is gone again. HOWEVER, instead of being in blinky mode, it starts out in some other mode. The green light isn't blinking. I didn't realize this until now but the same thing was happening at the tracks. At the start, it wouldn't be in blinky, and once the problem started, the green light was flashing. This tells me software issue again.
Have you thought maybe that your battery has a very high voltage drop and it's not as linear as they say ? and after 3-4 minutes of run time it just dumps ?
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:03 AM   #9396
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Default V3 17.5T boosted

Anybody out there with a good setup for the V3 with a 17.5T boosted?
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:47 AM   #9397
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Anybody out there with a good setup for the V3 with a 17.5T boosted?
Reverse speed 100%
Voltage cutoff auto
Esc overheat 105
Motor overheat 105
Pr sw point 50%
1st punch rate 30%
2nd Punch Rate 30%
TH Curve Linear
Drag 0%
Brake strength 100%
Br sw point 50%
1st brake rate 20%
2nd brake rate 20%
Brake curve linear
Boost timing 42 deg
BT Start Rpm 1000 rpm
BT end rpm 12000
BT slope linear
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Turbo timing 22 Deg
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Have you thought maybe that your battery has a very high voltage drop and it's not as linear as they say ? and after 3-4 minutes of run time it just dumps ?
That crossed my mind, yes. However I tested it with 3 different batteries, 2 of them brand new out of the bag.

We have a race night tonight so I'll do some more testing. That shimming thing is interesting though. I might want to mess with that a little bit more too.
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That crossed my mind, yes. However I tested it with 3 different batteries, 2 of them brand new out of the bag.

We have a race night tonight so I'll do some more testing. That shimming thing is interesting though. I might want to mess with that a little bit more too.
Next time take a video of it working then come back a few minutes later and show the delay.

I just tested mine out w/ a different radio (some dtx rtr i had laying around) and the delay is still there. I know you're using a different radio too so I don't think it's radio related.
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Reverse speed 100%
Voltage cutoff auto
Esc overheat 105
Motor overheat 105
Pr sw point 50%
1st punch rate 30%
2nd Punch Rate 30%
TH Curve Linear
Drag 0%
Brake strength 100%
Br sw point 50%
1st brake rate 20%
2nd brake rate 20%
Brake curve linear
Boost timing 42 deg
BT Start Rpm 1000 rpm
BT end rpm 12000
BT slope linear
BT by Th yes
Turbo timing 22 Deg
TT Activation - full throttle
Full throttle delay 0.1s
TT start rpm 9000 rpm
Thank you!
What gearratio do you suggest? It's for a small tight asphalt track.
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What gearratio do you suggest? It's for a small tight asphalt track.
Wat motor?
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:30 PM   #9402
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Wat motor?
It will be a ThunderPower 17.5T, and i will have a fan mounted to the motor for cooling.
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:31 PM   #9403
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Reverse speed 100%
Voltage cutoff auto
Esc overheat 105
Motor overheat 105
Pr sw point 50%
1st punch rate 30%
2nd Punch Rate 30%
TH Curve Linear
Drag 0%
Brake strength 100%
Br sw point 50%
1st brake rate 20%
2nd brake rate 20%
Brake curve linear
Boost timing 42 deg
BT Start Rpm 1000 rpm
BT end rpm 12000
BT slope linear
BT by Th yes
Turbo timing 22 Deg
TT Activation - full throttle
Full throttle delay 0.1s
TT start rpm 9000 rpm
Why are you starting the turbo before you have used your boost??
Surely this just generates extra heat
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It will be a ThunderPower 17.5T, and i will have a fan mounted to the motor for cooling.
I ran mine with 20deg. can timing and similar settings to NR posted but with abouts 4k start, 10k end 40deg boost, 24 tubo with 24 turbo ramp. I blew mine by running a higher end rpm which I thought was weird, this was with the blue rotor as well.

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Why are you starting the turbo before you have used your boost??
Surely this just generates extra heat
He has TT engage by full throttle, so that setting doesn't matter.
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Why are you starting the turbo before you have used your boost??
Surely this just generates extra heat
He has TT engage by full throttle, so that setting doesn't matter.
Not exactly because if it's "full throttle" on the TX and not on the ESC, he could be "full throttle" before the Boost timing end, and even before that 9000RPM threshold.
The only thing about that "full throttle" is that as soon as 0.1s is passed after full throttle is press on the TX, then the Turbo is starting.
Now, it's almost set in a way that Turbo can't start before all the Boost timing is reached.

So his Turbo is not starting before Full Throttle + 0.1s, and only if Boost timing is already used.
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