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Old 10-01-2011, 05:00 AM   #6481
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I've been running the following;

UFO 4.5t
FDR; 113/28 - 7.86

Running mode - 1
Drag Brake - 10%
Voltage protect - 3.2v
DDRS - 1
Brake force - 75%
Reverse force - 25%
Initial brake - Drag brake
Neutral range - 6%
Boost timing - 20
Turbo Slope - 12units/0.1s
Overheat protection - On
Turbo timing - 15
Boost start - 10,000
Turbo delay - 0.3s
Timing ACC - 100RPM/unit

Motor temp 70C

It's a bit funky to take advantage of the boost and turbo, but it's still pretty smooth. Depends a bit on the track, if you need less initial punch, lengthen the timing ACC.

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Tell us more about that UFO motor, saw it on other thread, looks really interesting but cannot find anything about it on the net.
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:05 AM   #6482
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I am using a 120A v2.1 and am really happy with it. The esc never get hot or does not thermal.
A fellow driver has a new 1s 120A without the heatsink or fan attached. With a 10.5 x12 and 2s the esc was getting so hot after just a couple of minutes that the temperature cut off engaged?

He still had the original insert in the motor but the motor was 75 degrees C. So that can't be it i think?

How can the esc thermal with 2s lipo and a 10.5t? Does the 1s 120A get hot that easy without a heatsink? He did reach 104 km/h with his xray x10
Any speedo can thermal if there is a problem with transmission, wrong FDR or settings, the X12 is known to heat up and it's best working range is 75/85 deg, he should put the heatsink on at least, then if his setup is very agressive, the speedo could take the flak and not his motor.
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:07 AM   #6483
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I had a good nights racing on tuesday with no problems my setup was
boost 30
boost start 4000
no turbo
acc 300
punch 5
last night at my regular club bigger track my settings were
boost 37
start 4000
acc 300
punch 6
no turbo
brand new cable new sensor board
the car went into sensorless mode in 2 out of the 3 heats then again in the final
I never had this problem with my hobbywing 13.5 and 17.5 even with more aggresive settings.
Ive wasted 4 weeks of club time trying to fix this and i dont want to buy a new motor until i know what causes it, so any thoughts will be appreciated
software is 211
Any reason why you are not using turbo? the rest of setup is also important if you can tell us?
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:11 AM   #6484
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I'm mildly concerned about the legality of updating firmwares for zero timing without any submission to ROAR about it, even if it's changes to brakes and whatnot, I worry it will be perceived as a chance to sneak in some timing by some people.

While I gather that is not the case, I just feel ROAR test and original firmware and approve that, then it gets tampered with, from what I read another brand got banned and kicked from the list for some time because they updated some firmware to something that turned out to be illegal.

Having said that, I'll have to re-check my Justock, as I can't even remember what version is on that right now, how many 'zero' firmwares do we have to use now?, as I'm getting confused.
Thats the first thing i did before i released anything to the hobbywing user was to send the software to Roar for approval


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Old 10-01-2011, 05:13 AM   #6485
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His settings were very mild and the motor was 75c:

Boost 25
turbo 10
delay 0,6
start rpm 6000
acc dont remember but at least 350 or higher
rollout don't know but it is not very low.

So the esc needs to work more when there is a lot of mechanical timing in the motor? Just curious.

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Any speedo can thermal if there is a problem with transmission, wrong FDR or settings, the X12 is known to heat up and it's best working range is 75/85 deg, he should put the heatsink on at least, then if his setup is very agressive, the speedo could take the flak and not his motor.
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:16 AM   #6486
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what would be the best software to use with a 21.5t sp v3 motor

930/211/213

have only tried 211 but im lacking alot of top end atm
all are good for the 21.5T just the 930 has less sensitivity on the sensor port thats all .so you dont get errors and allowing the esc to go sensorless .
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:49 AM   #6487
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full setup is 416we
fdr 8.0
the track is 30m x 18m
Running mode - 1
Drag Brake - 0%
Voltage protect - 2.8v
DDRS - 5
Brake force - 82.5%
Reverse force - 25%
Initial brake - Drag brake
Neutral range - 6%
Boost timing - 35
Turbo Slope - 12units/0.1s
Overheat protection - On
Turbo timing - 0
Boost start - 4,000
Turbo delay - 0.3s
Timing acc 300
ive only ever just used boost on these small tracks not much time for turbo to kick in on an 8 sec lap
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Old 10-01-2011, 06:14 AM   #6488
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full setup is 416we
fdr 8.0
the track is 30m x 18m
Running mode - 1
Drag Brake - 0%
Voltage protect - 2.8v
DDRS - 5
Brake force - 82.5%
Reverse force - 25%
Initial brake - Drag brake
Neutral range - 6%
Boost timing - 35
Turbo Slope - 12units/0.1s
Overheat protection - On
Turbo timing - 0
Boost start - 4,000
Turbo delay - 0.3s
Timing acc 300
ive only ever just used boost on these small tracks not much time for turbo to kick in on an 8 sec lap
Are you sure it is sensorless? you are running 2s so I would put my voltage protect to 3.2v to be safe first, try to raise the boost start to 6000 and acc to 450, try this and tell us. If your track is very short maybe you are demanding too much from the speedo, 10.5t have a good bit of torque. what kind of temperature do you get on speedo and motor after 2 minutes, and at what time the speedo switches off? and I would run 7.5 fdr.
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Old 10-01-2011, 12:54 PM   #6489
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ok ill try that, thanks!
there is'nt any particular time it happens randomly.
the only clue i have, is the night i ran it with 30 boost it was fine, but last night with 35 - 40 it started happening all other settings were the same.
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Hi all been a long time since i have been on here, just a quick question does anybody know what is the update with the hobbywing brushless system analyzer got the latest usb software 110921 and using 211 on the esc.

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Old 10-01-2011, 02:24 PM   #6491
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Hi all been a long time since i have been on here, just a quick question does anybody know what is the update with the hobbywing brushless system analyzer got the latest usb software 110921 and using 211 on the esc.

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sorry just noticed that the software on the program box is still saying 119 it will not update to 921 and help on that to.

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Is the 508_NoTiming capable of running a 10.5 in a truck. I don't need boost as I just want to get a feel for Mod Truck first.

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Old 10-01-2011, 04:03 PM   #6493
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Is the 508_NoTiming capable of running a 10.5 in a truck. I don't need boost as I just want to get a feel for Mod Truck first.

Ben
The software itself is fine - the limiting factor will be the speedy. The 120A ones will be absolutely no sweat, the 60A and Xtreme Stock are rated to 11.5 turns in offroad, but if you keep an eye on the ESC temps, you'll probably be ok.
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full setup is 416we
fdr 8.0
the track is 30m x 18m
Running mode - 1
Drag Brake - 0%
Voltage protect - 2.8v
DDRS - 5
Brake force - 82.5%
Reverse force - 25%
Initial brake - Drag brake
Neutral range - 6%
Boost timing - 35
Turbo Slope - 12units/0.1s
Overheat protection - On
Turbo timing - 0
Boost start - 4,000
Turbo delay - 0.3s
Timing acc 300
ive only ever just used boost on these small tracks not much time for turbo to kick in on an 8 sec lap
What motor are you running and what is the timing on the motor?
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3 runs with the new software and my V2.1 120A speedy went pop today. Not happy as i dont want to buy a new speedy till the V3 comes out and our states are at the end of the month. Hurry up V3...
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