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Old 09-16-2011, 04:02 PM   #6301
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Old 09-16-2011, 07:38 PM   #6302
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Guys just a quick question about the limits of the dynamic timing on the software. Someone said to me the other day that you can only go to 60 degrees of total timing. Does this mean that if you set both boost and turbo to 40 each (total of 80 degrees) you will only get 60 degrees of actual timing from the speedy? Or will you get the full 80 degrees and blow your motor?
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Guys just a quick question about the limits of the dynamic timing on the software. Someone said to me the other day that you can only go to 60 degrees of total timing. Does this mean that if you set both boost and turbo to 40 each (total of 80 degrees) you will only get 60 degrees of actual timing from the speedy? Or will you get the full 80 degrees and blow your motor?
My understanding is that the 211 software is capped at a total of 64 "steps". In your example 40+40 would max out at 64. Turbo doesn't start until all boost has been applied and the turbo delay has elapsed under full throttle. I don't think anyone has definitively tabled a quantitative relationship between "steps" and degrees.
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My understanding is that the 211 software is capped at a total of 64 "steps". In your example 40+40 would max out at 64. Turbo doesn't start until all boost has been applied and the turbo delay has elapsed under full throttle. I don't think anyone has definitively tabled a quantitative relationship between "steps" and degrees.
Is there any version that dosen't apply the turbo limit before full boost?
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Guys just a quick question about the limits of the dynamic timing on the software. Someone said to me the other day that you can only go to 60 degrees of total timing. Does this mean that if you set both boost and turbo to 40 each (total of 80 degrees) you will only get 60 degrees of actual timing from the speedy? Or will you get the full 80 degrees and blow your motor?
in this case, boost will be the value you have selected 40. Even though you have selected 40 for you turbo, your real world value for turbo is 24 , since 64 is your magic number for the total combined timing. Hope that makes sense
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Is there any version that dosen't apply the turbo limit before full boost?
hmmm for some reason at this time, I'm having a hard time understanding that sentence

however, I hope the following makes sense.

in version 119, turbo could be operated before full boost has been used up.

in 211, all steps of boost had to be used up, and then only turbo is applied.
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hmmm for some reason at this time, I'm having a hard time understanding that sentence

however, I hope the following makes sense.

in version 119, turbo could be operated before full boost has been applied.

in 211, all steps of boost had to be used up, and then only turbo is applied.
thats the answer I am looking for... Any idea where I can get this version in either HW or SP software?
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Is there any version that dosen't apply the turbo limit before full boost?
I think the 213 version starts to apply turbo once the turbo delay has elapsed, before full boost is applied, but someone may correct me.
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having said that, I'm hoping off the hobbywing bandwagon due to a terrible run of luck, and gone to black diamond. I hope the BD will hold its own
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thats the answer I am looking for... Any idea where I can get this version in either HW or SP software?
a few months ago, it was available on the hobbywing website. They were both(119 & 211) on the same file, along with the mod and older stock versions.
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in 211, all steps of boost had to be used up, and then only turbo is applied.
So does that mean there is no point in setting turbo delay?
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thats the answer I am looking for... Any idea where I can get this version in either HW or SP software?
Hobby wing site has it just go there and go.to USB download.
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So does that mean there is no point in setting turbo delay?
I think you have misunderstood a little

with 211, using all the boost, turbo will come in to whatever delay you have selected

for example, you use up all your boost in 2secs. Your turbo will come in to whatever value you have selected. So if you have selected delay at 1.5sec, your turbo will come in at the 3.5 sec from a standing start.
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turbo kicking in before all the boost was used up.....119

or traditionally using all boost, then turbo coming in....211

I did not find any difference on the track to be honest, well at least I can say I'm not good enough to know.
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having said that, I'm hoping off the hobbywing bandwagon due to a terrible run of luck, and gone to black diamond. I hope the BD will hold its own
The new system is pretty good however control of.when and where timing is applied is not as good as the r10 I am using (in most ways) however runs lower temps for better power. Its still better than the SP stock software my brother is playing with which is acting sooooo retarded. At least now I know why.
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