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Old 07-04-2011, 03:45 PM   #5506
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hello guys
I'm trying to hit a motor hw, and I'm having problems, our track is + - 270 meters and the main straight is 40 meters, and the engine with about 3 minutes reaches 92.7 C, would you have idea what's going on?
I tried to talk about the relations q, along with various settings xtreme stock esc
I began with, 8.0, 7.93, 7.34, 6.89, 6, 69, to reach 5.25, the FDR And no, heated up with all these
now esc
I'm with the 518 because the 211 even more heated, this was the best I could leave but decided not too
DRRs 7
brake force 50
boost timing 8
turbo level 7
start 6000 rpm
delay 0.4
timing punch -3

with the 211 I was just
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boost timing 40
18 turbo slope
24 turbo timing
start 4000 rpm
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relations with all this and has not worked after 6 minutes is the 136c
I tried with the 211 timing from 34 to 45
fastest turbo slope up from 24
I've been timing with 45 non turbo boost then he walked next to 90c but not rode anything was final, even with the 6.6 FDR
I tried to start from 3000 until 9000, but to no avail he was powerless, and so had he entered the turbo, i put 150 acc, but improved heated back up
on the bench he consumes 3.67 ah, testaei that too, to see if there was engine trouble, but 4 engines tested, because I bought 5 of them, and all give the same problem, so it's not supposed to be the engine, and tested 2 xtreme stock, q I q same thing, but do not know how to solve it, or if this engine goes hot even
I wish someone would help me with this engine, because I have work to hit, and also tested a novak, and I did not have any problem, he's cold about 78C in the final eight minutes and walk strong, but how we define hw as a mark of our league, we already have drivers for all motor

Thank you and look forward to some help from you
Excuse my English, I do not speak well, then turned to google translator, q hopefully understand what I mean !!!!!!!!!!
this should be fine for a while. Are you running outside in the sun? Also you know you listed the ratios you've tried from short(cooler) to taller(hotter). Go back with the 6.89-7.34. Play with motor end bell timing if you have to.
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Old 07-04-2011, 03:59 PM   #5507
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However our own testing of the 13.5's has been under load at 54,000 RPM,
I know, I've seen 44,000 from HW motors, but I do agree on the torque side, they like to rev.
I run LRP X12 10.5T, combined with 101224 FW, which is more towards torque, but really fast!
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Old 07-04-2011, 06:11 PM   #5508
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I used the 211 Stock version on last Sunday. (v2.1 120A / 13.5T) Just wow, loads of torque at low end, blazing speed on straight. I love the ESC but motor bearings seems not last very long. I think to change these to ceramic ball bearings.

Thanks Hobbywing for that quality product and Cobra for your support.
thank you for your kind words Hazar i will pass on your recommendation to michael were he will consult with the motor factory about the bearings .

I will be in turkey next year end of june so i would like to see your tracks and maybe attend a race meeting .

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Old 07-04-2011, 06:14 PM   #5509
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Thanks for your quick reply, i will test it at the weekend. I race indoors as well and that has a 30m straight, the rest is fairly tight and technical but still flowing, would you change any settings for this ?
30 m straight say a shorter delay bringing on the turbo quicker and maybe change the slope to ramp up the timing quicker as well .maybe also some less rpm start say 3000 rpm so it ramps up sooner
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cherry2blost: Thank you so much for taking time to answer all the questions!!

You said: You say Boost Timing doesn't affect the top end by much more than 20%, I refer you back to our results the 13.5 with a kV of 2500 has a non boosted RPM max of 21000 RPM, yet with Boost we are achieving 54000 RPM, Hobbywing have destruction tested 11.5's at over 100,000 RPM !!! So, on that point buddy you are barking up the wrong tree.

I use 119 software and 4.5 motor. I have tested to to shut down the turbo and increase the boost to the max. I wanted to get a smooth throttle profile. I see the top end is really a lot slower with no turbo kick in. It is day and night different. So, I forced to turn on the turbo and set the turbo as liner as possible in order to be fast enough on straight. BTW, my motor temp is like 65c.
On the track, it is reacting different then numbers. Andy idea?
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:29 AM   #5511
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Dear Customers

I am listing some photos of the fake xerun 120 and 60 amp esc's which were found in taiwan .We dont think they have been manufactured in Taiwan but more in china .

If anyone has a product that looks similar to the fake product please email me at teamcobraracing@gmail.com.

Not only do we have to put up with the fake ezrun series but also the xerun now when will it ever end .so be very careful when you purchase your product especially from ebay stores located out of hong kong .They also have ebay stores with uk listings but they are actually hong kong .

Im sure from the photo's you will be able to pick the fake product.

regards Angelo
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Dear Customers

I am listing some photos of the fake xerun 120 and 60 amp esc's which were found in taiwan .We dont think they have been manufactured in Taiwan but more in china .

If anyone has a product that looks similar to the fake product please email me at teamcobraracing@gmail.com.

Not only do we have to put up with the fake ezrun series but also the xerun now when will it ever end .so be very careful when you purchase your product especially from ebay stores located out of hong kong .They also have ebay stores with uk listings but they are actually hong kong .

Im sure from the photo's you will be able to pick the fake product.

regards Angelo
Hello Angelo!
In 5th pic, black one is original? The one with cables shown as A+B-C, while the blue one with ABC+- is fake?
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cherry2blost: Thank you so much for taking time to answer all the questions!!

You said: You say Boost Timing doesn't affect the top end by much more than 20%, I refer you back to our results the 13.5 with a kV of 2500 has a non boosted RPM max of 21000 RPM, yet with Boost we are achieving 54000 RPM, Hobbywing have destruction tested 11.5's at over 100,000 RPM !!! So, on that point buddy you are barking up the wrong tree.

I use 119 software and 4.5 motor. I have tested to to shut down the turbo and increase the boost to the max. I wanted to get a smooth throttle profile. I see the top end is really a lot slower with no turbo kick in. It is day and night different. So, I forced to turn on the turbo and set the turbo as liner as possible in order to be fast enough on straight. BTW, my motor temp is like 65c.
On the track, it is reacting different then numbers. Andy idea?
For a start I hope you are using the MOD software and not the STOCK version as that is totally the wrong software to use with a 4.5T.
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Hello Angelo!
In 5th pic, black one is original? The one with cables shown as A+B-C, while the blue one with ABC+- is fake?
Actually HW used ABC+- on like version 2.0, and A+B-C on 2.1 onwards I believe, though I wish they had stuck with ABC+- myself.
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Hello Angelo!
In 5th pic, black one is original? The one with cables shown as A+B-C, while the blue one with ABC+- is fake?
I believe it is.
Also with the capacitors.
It's original against fake i believe, for comparisation.

If the black one is also fake, they really did a good job!...
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Copying an expensive product from LRP or something i would understand but what is the world comming to when chinese are copying their own products! .
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Hello Angelo!
In 5th pic, black one is original? The one with cables shown as A+B-C, while the blue one with ABC+- is fake?
Yes the Black one is the Geniune product .
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