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Old 04-05-2011, 05:11 PM   #4621
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I've been running the Extreme stock speedy with a SP 21.5T for some time with good results.
I have now moved up to 13.5t so I decided to try out the HW motor, it ran quick, stayed cool and imploded after 5 1/2 mins.
The magnet disintegrated inside the motor, I hope this was a one off, I have been reading that the new HW motors have good quality control.
I'm currently sorting out a replacement with my vendor (who has been awesome help from the start).
I hope it was only a once off, time will tell I suppose.
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I've been running the Extreme stock speedy with a SP 21.5T for some time with good results.
I have now moved up to 13.5t so I decided to try out the HW motor, it ran quick, stayed cool and imploded after 5 1/2 mins.
The magnet disintegrated inside the motor, I hope this was a one off, I have been reading that the new HW motors have good quality control.
I'm currently sorting out a replacement with my vendor (who has been awesome help from the start).
I hope it was only a once off, time will tell I suppose.
2 motors in as many weeks Benny, your on a roll
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:30 PM   #4624
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How much difference does adding mechanical motor timing make
Is the timing calculated from this point or is it in the overall equation
Eg; motor timing 10 deg + boost/ turbo etc
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:23 PM   #4625
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I've been running the Extreme stock speedy with a SP 21.5T for some time with good results.
I have now moved up to 13.5t so I decided to try out the HW motor, it ran quick, stayed cool and imploded after 5 1/2 mins.
The magnet disintegrated inside the motor, I hope this was a one off, I have been reading that the new HW motors have good quality control.
I'm currently sorting out a replacement with my vendor (who has been awesome help from the start).
I hope it was only a once off, time will tell I suppose.

What is your RO ? Normally they dont explode unless its rev'ing really high. I have blown up a novak rotor this way.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:26 PM   #4626
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How much difference does adding mechanical motor timing make
Is the timing calculated from this point or is it in the overall equation
Eg; motor timing 10 deg + boost/ turbo etc

The end bell (Motor timing) make a huge difference. Esp with the HW.

And you have it exactly right too. Total Timing=Motor Timing + ESC Timing.

My own experience is some motors requre/like alittle end bell timing to keep the starts smooth. I also found that when running HW without end bell timing, i cant keep up to the other cars on the track. So I run about 15deg on the endbell (novak 17.5, 1S)

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What is your RO ? Normally they dont explode unless its rev'ing really high. I have blown up a novak rotor this way.
My FDR is 7.29, pretty much what the other guys in my class run.
I will be trying 6.97 next time.
Not sure how to calculate roll out, using sorex tyres.
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I've been running the Extreme stock speedy with a SP 21.5T for some time with good results.
I have now moved up to 13.5t so I decided to try out the HW motor, it ran quick, stayed cool and imploded after 5 1/2 mins.
The magnet disintegrated inside the motor, I hope this was a one off, I have been reading that the new HW motors have good quality control.
I'm currently sorting out a replacement with my vendor (who has been awesome help from the start).
I hope it was only a once off, time will tell I suppose.
Benny your replacement motor was sent to Greg this morning so im sure you will have it before the weekend .

sorry for the issue you had i just hope we have lived up to our after sales service to get you back racing and happy once again by the weekend .

regards Angelo
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Old 04-05-2011, 11:58 PM   #4629
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Hi guys

Just a little update there is no updates of firmware so i dont know where the rumours are coming from but i was on a conference call with michael this morning and i was told there is no updates for now .The last was the 211 according to michael .

irgo please give us the source of your information about the new firmware or please dont start rumours friend .

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Just a little update there is no updates of firmware so i dont know where the rumours are coming from but i was on a conference call with michael this morning and i was told there is no updates for now .The last was the 211 according to michael .

irgo please give us the source of your information about the new firmware or please dont start rumours friend .

regards Angelo
Irgo's been caught by a hook... a post was put up with the software dates 110401STOCK.... which by HW date code would be 1st of April... April fool
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Old 04-06-2011, 03:12 AM   #4631
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Benny your replacement motor was sent to Greg this morning so im sure you will have it before the weekend .

sorry for the issue you had i just hope we have lived up to our after sales service to get you back racing and happy once again by the weekend .

regards Angelo
Thanks Angelo, I'm sure it was just a manufacturing fault?
Thanks for sorting a new motor so quickly, as I posted earler, my FDR was at 7.3, which is what we all run at our track for 13.5 (40m front straight).
Does that sound right for the HW motor?
It has been suggested that the HW motor is more tourquey than SP and Tekin etc, is this true?
Should I be running taller gearing?
Maybe something closer to 6.0 FDR, or maybe even lower?
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Thanks Angelo, I'm sure it was just a manufacturing fault?
Thanks for sorting a new motor so quickly, as I posted earler, my FDR was at 7.3, which is what we all run at our track for 13.5 (40m front straight).
Does that sound right for the HW motor?
It has been suggested that the HW motor is more tourquey than SP and Tekin etc, is this true?
Should I be running taller gearing?
Maybe something closer to 6.0 FDR, or maybe even lower?
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On your straight where was the motor topping out? Very early or near the end of the straight. If toppping out early I would think your gearing was off and hence revving too hard .. hence the exploding rotor

Of course it would also depend on what settings you are using on the ESC
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On your straight where was the motor topping out? Very early or near the end of the straight. If toppping out early I would think your gearing was off and hence revving too hard .. hence the exploding rotor

Of course it would also depend on what settings you are using on the ESC
To be honest, it felt pretty much the same as the Ion3, topping out near the end.
Definitely wasn't peaking too early.
Boost is on 30, acc 250, turbo is on 30, 6deg/0.1 sec, 0.2 delay. (off the top of my head)
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Just a little update there is no updates of firmware so i dont know where the rumours are coming from but i was on a conference call with michael this morning and i was told there is no updates for now .The last was the 211 according to michael .

irgo please give us the source of your information about the new firmware or please dont start rumours friend .

regards Angelo
that 0401 was cherry told us,

but michael already tell's me about the ESC Firmware Log with the next one,
that's why i wonder why cherry got it, but you don't apparently cherry was
lying about the 0401,..

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that 0401 was cherry told us,

but michael already tell's me about the ESC Firmware Log with the next one,
that's why i wonder why cherry got it, but you don't apparently cherry was
lying about the 0401,..

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