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Old 03-04-2011, 10:17 PM   #3541
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You need to provide alot more information. Type of car, motor, gearing, track layout, and the ESC settings.

With the 119 (or 1224), you can easily Over time the motor, and it sounds like this is what you have done. Try upgrading back to the 119 software, and then start very conservative on the timing. We do know that step #54 Boost is 36 deg of timing. (Confirmed here on Rctech).

Brushless motors will not run properly with more then 60deg of timing, they tend to run slow and make alot of heat.


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quality wise yes perfromance similar.Also better hall sensor board which is designed by michael .

What some of you may not know the motors are actually designed by michael at hobbywing and then manufactured in a part owned hobbywing factory
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:49 AM   #3542
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this are the setting that i used for first time at my racing club.

110119 with sp13.5 v3 at 7.4 fdr ,max temp 72c
4 DRRS 8
9 boost timing 55
10 turbo slope 24
12 turbo timing 30
13 start rpm 2000
14 turbo delay 0.4
timing acc 200

the car felt really quick in the infield and at beginning of the 30 metre straight,but the turbo did not felt to have any punch.what setting could help?
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You almost used up timing in boost, 2000+200*55=13000 , and with 7.4 FDR, the speed of your car is only 20km/h at this RPM.
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quality wise yes perfromance similar.Also better hall sensor board which is designed by michael .

What some of you may not know the motors are actually designed by michael at hobbywing and then manufactured in a part owned hobbywing factory
im asking about the difference because the sp13.5t with any settings under 50 o 55 boost is a donkey,when others with different brand motors are using about 30 to 35 boost leaving them with more turbo setting to play with.
does mean the hw would be the same?any suggestions.
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Right the workout maths is right, but that does not mean that the motor stops pulling once all the timing is used up... 13000 RPM would be where no more timing is added but the motor will continue to accelerate, so that's not a right answer there.

I run 50/18 have 200ACC and start at 2000RPM the elogger logs my max RPM on a 13.5 at 45000 using your maths my car would only be doing 12000 RPM as the boost stops this plainly is NOT the case so please lets get some correct facts / maths on here.
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:54 AM   #3544
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is the firmware with the elogger out yet?
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:03 AM   #3545
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wait a minute. The boost (timing) and turbo (additional timing, with 'boost' as preliminary) are indicated in steps and not in degrees?

Can someone define how much 1 step represent in degrees? Thanks
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:18 AM   #3546
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wait a minute. The boost (timing) and turbo (additional timing, with 'boost' as preliminary) are indicated in steps and not in degrees?

Can someone define how much 1 step represent in degrees? Thanks
If it's linear then 1 step = 0.66 degrees and 1 degree = 1.5 steps.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:01 AM   #3547
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Is it just me or has battery usage been dropped dramatically with the new software? Right now I'm only using 1.4A per 5min race with my 17.5t as I remember using at least 2A with the old firmwares.
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If it's linear then 1 step = 0.66 degrees and 1 degree = 1.5 steps.
false!

true is 1 = 1

break through from angelo manual
"with the precision of 1 degree steps."
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Old 03-05-2011, 12:28 PM   #3549
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I dont know how to update the firmware on my LCD programming box, please help
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I dont know how to update the firmware on my LCD programming box, please help
go to hobbywing web site download update USB Link V1.63
choice Device & 2 in 1 program box
Software page had button Upgrade click will ok !
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false!

true is 1 = 1

break through from angelo manual
"with the precision of 1 degree steps."
We have already gone through this before. As of right now, the last FW version that is available 0119 uses steps, and not actual degrees. Angelo previously in this forum apologized that the current manual created confusion, and does not actually represent the current FW accurately.
The last released FW to use degrees is 1224.

Cheers,
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Ps. Besides, I am running 0119 with 15deg Endbell, 60 Boost, 20 Turbo. 95 Deg? My motor would be running backwards.
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64Deg on V3.0_110211(213)


Great, bringing up FW that isnt released yet. Lets keep our discussions to FW that has been publically released shall we?

Shawn.

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Old 03-05-2011, 01:39 PM   #3553
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64Deg on V3.0_110211(213)
Few things..... why have you got the new software and the UK team do not?

Oh frack it, it's just the one thing! I can't be bothered to ask any more.....
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false!

true is 1 = 1

break through from angelo manual
"with the precision of 1 degree steps."
Angelo has already stated that the information was wrong and the the new instructions have been 'Pulled'.
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go to hobbywing web site download update USB Link V1.63
choice Device & 2 in 1 program box
Software page had button Upgrade click will ok !
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