It was never Mr Taylor track, Its owned by the Clark County Parks & Recreation. Mr. Taylor just rents it out for his events as anyone else can if they like.
You would think that be able to create and run a new RC club was going to be easy, well yes and no. I just did not think we were going to get so much resistant's from the Roar Region 12 Directo (Rich Taylor) there is no hidding that he is not well like, we have not had any organized club racing in Las Vegas for over 3 years now and now that we want to start some he again is making it point to railroad our efforts. There are a lot of people that just want to come out and run with this club but honestly do not want any thing to due with him (Rich Taylor) and in my opinion that should be ok. So I sent him email last night which I am going to post to simply stay away and you will see his responce. In my opinnoin a Roar officer like him should be promoting club racing not trying to take it away its not the club fault that he (Rich Taylor) has so many people that do not like him. I am asking in this fourm to Roar president (Dawn) to ask him (Rich Taylor) to back off or step down.
I had conversation early today with Scott Fisher regarding your feeling about the New RC club, Scott had mention that is was your plans to come out to our club practices and or races. Well let start by saying this, As of today Rich I have no issue with you or do I feel I have any unresolved issue with you. This Club has been in works for while now, nothing wanted to be said untill we were very clear to what the county parks & recreation expected from us. And now that we are both very clear and understand we are moving foward as you have found out.
We have meet with alot of people both on Raod & off Road and even some from cali, everyone wanted the same thing as I did and that was to run our car and race as much as possible with that being said I told every one that this is going to have to take help of few people if this is what you really want, meaning preping track, and for most they agreed few said they would not but still come out and pay to race, and that was ok with us. The bigest request we got from I say 98% of the group was that they did not want any part of you (Rich Taylor) to be involved in this club or racing.
Yes you have done alot to track, but the truth is there is only one person respoinsible for the reason these people do not want you part of this, and that is you.
I am not sure how or what to say to them to make things diffrent, In all honesty its not my issue or fight. This is going to be somthing you fix.
Our plans are to race twice month and practice the same. Being that you have told scott that you want to come out we are going to rent the track out for both practice and races, reason for that as you know if we have it rented, we have the right to refuse anyone not to come on the track or the track property. And that has been ok by the county parks, they simply told us that if you come out we can do this and if there is any issue with you being on site to just call Park police. We will have video cameras there just to document every thing so know one tells any false stories.
So I am asking you to please leave this club alone and its members, if you Rich Taylor wants to put on your own races well then do so. I just think if you do this and in time things might heal and change. If you create any issue just remember it will be your choice. I hope you make the right choice, and in future things will change.
I think that it is great that you are attempting to revive club racing in Vegas. However, it is not cool to put Rich on blast on the open forum. Posts #19 thru #21 should not have been posted and should be a "behind the scenes" thing. This could foster/create more unnecessary tension than what it is worth. I have raced out there in the past (last race 2005 Paris race) and had a blast. I know of the many issues that have plagued the track and racing since I have been coming to Vegas (my dad lives there) on a regular basis (since 2002). However, there are some things that should be handled "off forum" and never posted in full (just the summized results). I wish you all the luck and hopefully on my next visit I can catch a club race but lets not make it sound too personal between the parties/factions and keep that part off the forum. Oh, and keep things on the positive; it will work to the betterment of you and what you are attempting to accomplish.
Why would he need to send somthing like this to his legal department , it RC Racing. are you kidding me. By the way if I am as you call it blasting him which part of what I have said is not true?
yes Jlock in some way you might be right but in all honesty I am fustrated that he continues to conduct him self with other like this, I think that its stupid that man like this has his so called legal team send other racer letter to shut them up. I donot like bullies.
It is like this: If it gets to be an ugly situation on the forum, then you are defeating your purpose. Many in your area read/check out the forums on a regular basis and pass info along to other racers that don't cruise the forum. Any sorts of negativity can and will drive some away or keep some from coming out to race, which is not what you want. Again, I think that it is great that someone has the testicular fortitude to try to revive regular racing at that track. However, you should be keeping the racers abreast of the club and racing events here on the forum and keep all the political/legal dealings off the forum as not to create unnecessary controversies. You have to keep it as positive as possible because if you let it get negative on here, then the "other side" wins. You have to keep your head about yourself and out-think your opponent (like playing chess) in order to get the upper hand and checkmate your opponent. Keep your eyes on the prize and don't let the little things become a distraction to the end-goal. Just my $0.02 and some food for thought.
Robert, looks pretty clear, racers want or will come out to race if ? is not around and that's not your or the clubs fault or decision. I don't have any beef with ? ? but it seems alot of people do. Sounds like the community of racers is asking for this and just wants a place to race but has that one condition or request which is the topic of the issue, the racers will show up if ?? doesn't show up.
The county is clear, an organization or any qualified group can reserve the county track (it's not ?s or anybody else's track, it's the COUNTIES TRACK) anytime and allow or not allow anyone they chose to be there.
Don't know what the possible issue should be or what any attorney review of your letter has to do with anything the county has set up for the tax paying community to make use of ie. the parks, skate parks, race tracks?
Per the county Reserve it, it's yours and who you want there. Sound clear.
If anything Roar and all involved with r/c racing should be tickled pink that the local racing community want's to hold racing and promote the hobby to the masses that will benifit on a trickle down effect. Roar gets new members, hobby shops sell products, community has an organized club holding races in safe and clean environment, smiles on kids and large kids faces having fun in the sun, the county happy that the investment of the track is not a waste and being used on regular basis.
And if all this starts with racers wanting to come out and race without the presence of ? ? and the county allows this with the rental of the track for those race/practice days, then so be it.
Again, I got no issue with any racers or club members or ? never had, just inputting my 2 cents on the issue.
Its nice to hear and read others inputs on the forum, but they only know so much, nice your dad live here but you dont, for those of you who do not live in Vegas or know of the things that go behind , you only have half of the story. There are lot of us who spend lots of $$ for these cars and would like to run them more than twice a year. Thats how many race are put on here in Vegas right now. Some of us have made choice to drive to cali to race but the cost is getting to be greater than the fun. So thats why we are attempting to have races back here. Again as Billy said its public park and can be rented out by any one and for that person or persons who rent the track they have the right to allow or not allow any one to race with them. So in order to get the people out to race with us I have taken there request and ask him not to come out. It jus that simple.
Its nice to hear and read others inputs on the forum, but they only know so much, nice your dad live here but you dont, for those of you who do not live in Vegas or know of the things that go behind , you only have half of the story. There are lot of us who spend lots of $$ for these cars and would like to run them more than twice a year. Thats how many race are put on here in Vegas right now. Some of us have made choice to drive to cali to race but the cost is getting to be greater than the fun. So thats why we are attempting to have races back here. Again as Billy said its public park and can be rented out by any one and for that person or persons who rent the track they have the right to allow or not allow any one to race with them. So in order to get the people out to race with us I have taken there request and ask him not to come out. It jus that simple.
Robert,
I know I don't have much of a dog in this hunt. However, I know a little more about the situation than you think I do. I am just trying to advise you on keeping this on the positive and work to get the club and club racing up and going with few issues. I am on your side and if I was there, would like to help. However, if you keep whacking the hornets' nest with your stick, they will come out and sting the heck out of you. This forum can be an attribute or a detriment to what you are trying to accomplish. It is easy to get sidetracked and your attentions diverted from what you are trying to do. If you allow that to happen, then the "other side" accomplished what they wanted and there will still be no club/club racing in Vegas at that very nice track. Work the channels that you are working but keep the politics off the forum. We had similar things going on with our track and onroad series. I was driving 900 miles round trip to Mississippi to race onroad (12 hr round trip drive) when we had a track 60 miles from my house and one in Houston 250 miles away. However, there were some major changes with the club, rules, and political participants with the series and I am now participating with the series racing (MS is not racing this year but with the changes, I was still going to try out our series and am having fun). Point is, I know where you are coming from but you have to stay focused on where you want to get to. Let the "other side" rant, rave, blow steam, etc, that only shows others who is the "bad guy", if you are conducting yourself calm, cool, and business-like. I am heavily invested in this hobby like the next guy (have $7000+ in nitro onroad stuff alone, not counting electric onroad, electric & nitro offroad and nitro/electric helicopters). I want to see you succeed but when you make it a pissing contest here on the forum, 99.9% of the time you will lose that fight/battle/war.
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