5th Annual Pan Car Shootout 2008
02-15-2008, 07:56 PM
#1
5th Annual Pan Car Shootout 2008
Ok guys the flyer is done and up on our website. http://www.azpancar.com Also you can pre-enter on website through PayPal if you want.
This should be a great race! Last year we had some great drivers from AZ, NV, CA come with great results. If you have any question please LMK [email protected]
Thanks,
Raymond McCoy
azpancar.com
This should be a great race! Last year we had some great drivers from AZ, NV, CA come with great results. If you have any question please LMK [email protected]
Thanks,
Raymond McCoy
azpancar.com
02-15-2008, 08:10 PM
#2
Hey Guys - Phoenix Weather in APRIL is Awesome...
The RCSports Mania track - also Awesome. This is one of the nicest little banked asphalt oval tracks around. Easy to drive (Not as easy to be FAST...for me anyway)
Great group of racers - the AZ Pan Car club has a bunch of great guys and top level racers...
Put this race on your list -
The RCSports Mania track - also Awesome. This is one of the nicest little banked asphalt oval tracks around. Easy to drive (Not as easy to be FAST...for me anyway)
Great group of racers - the AZ Pan Car club has a bunch of great guys and top level racers...
Put this race on your list -
03-03-2008, 12:02 PM
#4
Ok guys we have some bad news RCSM is closing on May 24th so if you haven't made the trip over to run on this great track you might want to make the 5th Annual PCSO!!!
www.azpancar.com for entry form and or entry list.
Raymond McCoy
www.azpancar.com for entry form and or entry list.
Raymond McCoy
03-05-2008, 10:20 AM
#5
Ok guys we have some bad news RCSM is closing on May 24th so if you haven't made the trip over to run on this great track you might want to make the 5th Annual PCSO!!!
www.azpancar.com for entry form and or entry list.
Raymond McCoy
www.azpancar.com for entry form and or entry list.
Raymond McCoy
Is that the regular summer close down of RCSM?
Gary&Cinda have sold property as of June 1st tracks will be taken down.
03-17-2008, 09:58 PM
#7
Pre-entries end Friday!!!
30.00 1st class w/ hat
15.00 2nd class
15.00 3rd class etc
Regular entry price
30.00 1st class
22.00 2nd class
18.00 3rd class
Thrpohies for top 3 in each A main. I ordered today
BRL/ROAR Rules will be used with few adjustments!!!
Raymond McCoy
azpancar.com
[email protected]
30.00 1st class w/ hat
15.00 2nd class
15.00 3rd class etc
Regular entry price
30.00 1st class
22.00 2nd class
18.00 3rd class
Thrpohies for top 3 in each A main. I ordered today
BRL/ROAR Rules will be used with few adjustments!!!
Raymond McCoy
azpancar.com
[email protected]
03-19-2008, 09:44 PM
#8
Hey guys the rules for the PCSO will be BRL/ROAR Rules for motors and batteries. With few small changes.
10.5 classes BRL rules with center ring allowed to remove for temp, you can run all BL 10.5 all lipos will be no higher than 8.45v when they hit the track!
BRL Rule for 10.5:
5.16 ) Approved motors may NOT have any material removed from the can, endbell, coil winding stacks, or any other motor component.
This includes the purple aluminum "Center Band".
5.16–1) Sensor board must remain mounted in the stock location. No modifications or tampering with the sensor assembly is permitted.
5.16-2) A single hole may be drilled in the plastic end cap for the purpose of oiling the rear bearing, the hole may be no larger then 3/8".
5.16-3) Bearings may be replaced with steel or ceramic version of the same size.
5.16-4) Timing adjustments to the motor is allowed. You may only do so by loosening the three endell screws and rotating the colored timing ring.
The timing hash mark closest to the PCB board may not be rotated past the edge of the PCB tab. The full hash mark must be visible.
ROAR Rules for 13.5, 17.5 class:
8.8.4 “ 05” size dimensions.
8.8.4.1 Can:
Overall maximum diameter is 36.02mm measured at whatever point yields the
maximum dimension, excluding solder tabs or lead wires. Overall minimum
diameter is 34.00mm measured at whatever point yields the minimum dimension,
excluding solder tabs or lead wires. Maximum length is 53.00mm measured from
the mounting face of the motor to the furthest most point of the end bell, not
including solder tabs, lead wires or original manufacturer’s logo or name.
Minimum length is 50.00mm measured from the mounting face of the motor to the
furthest most point of the end bell, not including solder tabs, lead wires or original
manufacturer’s logo or name. Motor mounting holes must be on 1.00- inch
(25.40mm) centers.
8.8.4.2 Stack/Stator:
For Modified Brushless Motors: Stack minimum length 19.30mm, maximum
21.00mm. Stack inside diameter minimum 12.50mm, maximum 16.00mm. If a
continuous stack is used then the laminations have to be adjacent to one another
without any insertions. The thickness of the stack plates is 0.35 +/- 0.05mm. All
laminations must be of the same material.
For Stock and Super Stock Brushless Motors: The stator construction must be
continuous laminations having the same overall shape, one after the other without
anything in between. The laminations must be of one homogeneous material
without cut-outs, holes or hollow sections other than for the three slots for the
round copper coil wires and the three slots for the screws used to hold the entire
can together. The overall stator length parallel to the motor shaft shall be
minimum 19.3 mm and maximum 21.0 mm. The thickness of the laminations
shall be 0.35+/- 0.05mm. A ‘go-no-go’ gauge 14.500 +0.000/-0.005 mm diameter
shall pass into the stator, clearing the stator plus its windings and the electrical
collection ring at the end of the stator.
8.8.4.3 Winding:
Modified Brushless Motors: Only three slot (phase) “Y” wound stators are
permitted. No delta wound stators allowed. Only circular (round) pure copper wire
permitted. No turn limit.
Stock Motor: Only three slot “Y” wound stators are permitted. No delta wound or
slot less stators are allowed. Only circular (round) pure copper magnet wire
permitted. The three slotted stator must be wound with 17.5 turns of 2 strands of
20 AWG or 2 strands of 0.80 mm IEC per slot. The inductance for each slot of the
stator shall be 102.00 Micro Henries minimum and 108.00 Micro Henries
maximum, measured with the rotor removed from the motor.
Super Stock Motor: Only three slot “Y” wound stators are permitted. No delta
wound or slot less stators are allowed. Only circular (round) pure copper magnet
wire permitted. The three slotted stator must be wound with 13.5 turns of 2
strands of 21 AWG or 2 strands of 0.71mm IEC and two strands of 23 AWG or 2
strands of 0.56mm IEC per slot. The inductance for each slot of the stator shall be
57.00 Micro Henries minimum and 67.00 Micro Henries maximum, measured with
the rotor removed from the motor.
8.8.4.4 Rotor:
Modified Motor: Shaft diameter must be 0.125 inches (3.175mm). Only one
piece, two pole Neodymium or Ferrite magnetic rotors are permitted. Magnet
minimum length 23.00mm, maximum 27.00mm. Magnet minimum diameter
12.00mm, maximum 15.50mm.
Stock and Super Stock Motors: External shaft diameter must be 0.125 inches
(3.175mm). Only one piece, two pole Neodymium sintered or bonded, or Ferrite
(Ceramic) magnetic rotors are permitted. The magnet length shall be 25.0 +/-
1.00mm not including any non-magnetic balancing material. The magnet outside
diameter shall be a minimum/maximum of 12.2-12.51 mm, no tolerances, for the
entire length of the magnet. The shaft outside diameter, where the magnet is
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mounted, shall be 7.25 +/- 0.150mm. This dimension must be measurable without
destroying the rotor.
All motors must have the original manufacturer’s logo or name molded Into the
end bell. A marking or unique feature that is difficult to remove must be integrated
into the Stock and Super Stock motor to signify that it is for stock or super stock
competition.
8.8.5 All motors must have the original manufacturer’s logo or name moulded into the end bell.
8.8.6 A minimum of two thousand (2000) brushless motors must be available at the time of
approval. A minimum of three hundred (300) brushless motors must have been sold to at
least three (3) distributors or hobby shops or OEM’s at the time of submittal. The
manufacturer has to provide an address of a hobby shop or the like, that any driver who
wishes to obtain these motors at the time of the approval can do so. No hybrid (mixing of
parts from approved brushless motors) allowed.
8.8.6 The maximum retail price of a brushless motor shall be $129.00
Weight rule for all 4-cell cars is 40oz and all lipo cars 38oz.
If you have any question please ask! All motors will be teched before you hit the track on Sat. 4-5-08 for practice. If your motor is not
tagged you will lose that Qualifing run.
Thanks,
Raymond McCoy
10.5 classes BRL rules with center ring allowed to remove for temp, you can run all BL 10.5 all lipos will be no higher than 8.45v when they hit the track!
BRL Rule for 10.5:
5.16 ) Approved motors may NOT have any material removed from the can, endbell, coil winding stacks, or any other motor component.
This includes the purple aluminum "Center Band".
5.16–1) Sensor board must remain mounted in the stock location. No modifications or tampering with the sensor assembly is permitted.
5.16-2) A single hole may be drilled in the plastic end cap for the purpose of oiling the rear bearing, the hole may be no larger then 3/8".
5.16-3) Bearings may be replaced with steel or ceramic version of the same size.
5.16-4) Timing adjustments to the motor is allowed. You may only do so by loosening the three endell screws and rotating the colored timing ring.
The timing hash mark closest to the PCB board may not be rotated past the edge of the PCB tab. The full hash mark must be visible.
ROAR Rules for 13.5, 17.5 class:
8.8.4 “ 05” size dimensions.
8.8.4.1 Can:
Overall maximum diameter is 36.02mm measured at whatever point yields the
maximum dimension, excluding solder tabs or lead wires. Overall minimum
diameter is 34.00mm measured at whatever point yields the minimum dimension,
excluding solder tabs or lead wires. Maximum length is 53.00mm measured from
the mounting face of the motor to the furthest most point of the end bell, not
including solder tabs, lead wires or original manufacturer’s logo or name.
Minimum length is 50.00mm measured from the mounting face of the motor to the
furthest most point of the end bell, not including solder tabs, lead wires or original
manufacturer’s logo or name. Motor mounting holes must be on 1.00- inch
(25.40mm) centers.
8.8.4.2 Stack/Stator:
For Modified Brushless Motors: Stack minimum length 19.30mm, maximum
21.00mm. Stack inside diameter minimum 12.50mm, maximum 16.00mm. If a
continuous stack is used then the laminations have to be adjacent to one another
without any insertions. The thickness of the stack plates is 0.35 +/- 0.05mm. All
laminations must be of the same material.
For Stock and Super Stock Brushless Motors: The stator construction must be
continuous laminations having the same overall shape, one after the other without
anything in between. The laminations must be of one homogeneous material
without cut-outs, holes or hollow sections other than for the three slots for the
round copper coil wires and the three slots for the screws used to hold the entire
can together. The overall stator length parallel to the motor shaft shall be
minimum 19.3 mm and maximum 21.0 mm. The thickness of the laminations
shall be 0.35+/- 0.05mm. A ‘go-no-go’ gauge 14.500 +0.000/-0.005 mm diameter
shall pass into the stator, clearing the stator plus its windings and the electrical
collection ring at the end of the stator.
8.8.4.3 Winding:
Modified Brushless Motors: Only three slot (phase) “Y” wound stators are
permitted. No delta wound stators allowed. Only circular (round) pure copper wire
permitted. No turn limit.
Stock Motor: Only three slot “Y” wound stators are permitted. No delta wound or
slot less stators are allowed. Only circular (round) pure copper magnet wire
permitted. The three slotted stator must be wound with 17.5 turns of 2 strands of
20 AWG or 2 strands of 0.80 mm IEC per slot. The inductance for each slot of the
stator shall be 102.00 Micro Henries minimum and 108.00 Micro Henries
maximum, measured with the rotor removed from the motor.
Super Stock Motor: Only three slot “Y” wound stators are permitted. No delta
wound or slot less stators are allowed. Only circular (round) pure copper magnet
wire permitted. The three slotted stator must be wound with 13.5 turns of 2
strands of 21 AWG or 2 strands of 0.71mm IEC and two strands of 23 AWG or 2
strands of 0.56mm IEC per slot. The inductance for each slot of the stator shall be
57.00 Micro Henries minimum and 67.00 Micro Henries maximum, measured with
the rotor removed from the motor.
8.8.4.4 Rotor:
Modified Motor: Shaft diameter must be 0.125 inches (3.175mm). Only one
piece, two pole Neodymium or Ferrite magnetic rotors are permitted. Magnet
minimum length 23.00mm, maximum 27.00mm. Magnet minimum diameter
12.00mm, maximum 15.50mm.
Stock and Super Stock Motors: External shaft diameter must be 0.125 inches
(3.175mm). Only one piece, two pole Neodymium sintered or bonded, or Ferrite
(Ceramic) magnetic rotors are permitted. The magnet length shall be 25.0 +/-
1.00mm not including any non-magnetic balancing material. The magnet outside
diameter shall be a minimum/maximum of 12.2-12.51 mm, no tolerances, for the
entire length of the magnet. The shaft outside diameter, where the magnet is
47
mounted, shall be 7.25 +/- 0.150mm. This dimension must be measurable without
destroying the rotor.
All motors must have the original manufacturer’s logo or name molded Into the
end bell. A marking or unique feature that is difficult to remove must be integrated
into the Stock and Super Stock motor to signify that it is for stock or super stock
competition.
8.8.5 All motors must have the original manufacturer’s logo or name moulded into the end bell.
8.8.6 A minimum of two thousand (2000) brushless motors must be available at the time of
approval. A minimum of three hundred (300) brushless motors must have been sold to at
least three (3) distributors or hobby shops or OEM’s at the time of submittal. The
manufacturer has to provide an address of a hobby shop or the like, that any driver who
wishes to obtain these motors at the time of the approval can do so. No hybrid (mixing of
parts from approved brushless motors) allowed.
8.8.6 The maximum retail price of a brushless motor shall be $129.00
Weight rule for all 4-cell cars is 40oz and all lipo cars 38oz.
If you have any question please ask! All motors will be teched before you hit the track on Sat. 4-5-08 for practice. If your motor is not
tagged you will lose that Qualifing run.
Thanks,
Raymond McCoy
03-20-2008, 02:58 PM
#9
THANKS!!!!
Special Thanks to our Sponsors for the 5th Annual PCSO:
ProMatch Batteries, HyperDrive Racing, Murdock R/C, Windtunnel Racing, Jake's Performance Hobbies, John's BSR Racing Tires, KCRacing, RC4LESS, McAllister Racing, Team Asscoiated, MaxAmps Batteries, Kimbrough Racing Products.
Raymond McCoy
azpancar.com
ProMatch Batteries, HyperDrive Racing, Murdock R/C, Windtunnel Racing, Jake's Performance Hobbies, John's BSR Racing Tires, KCRacing, RC4LESS, McAllister Racing, Team Asscoiated, MaxAmps Batteries, Kimbrough Racing Products.
Raymond McCoy
azpancar.com
03-20-2008, 04:00 PM
#10
Are you guys going to have tripple A-Mains?
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04-06-2008, 01:23 AM
#11
Final Results
4-cell/27t, 4-cell/17.5 Stock
TQ Robin Young 47 4:01.317
1st. Robin Young 47 4:01.770
2nd. Jordan McCunn 45 4:00.975
3rd. Alan Hanna 43 4:04.403
4th. Joe Krosner 42 4:03.936
5th. Tyler Wible 39 4:04.704
4-cell/13.5, lipo/21.5 Pro Stock
TQ Paul Cathey 55 4:01
1st. Jeff Helms 54 4:03.273
2nd. Paul Cathey 54 4:03.387
3rd. Scott McCunn 53 4:02.391
4th. Bryan Blaser 53 4:03.083
5th. Joe Wilson 51 4:02.746
6th. Dan Wood 48 4:04
7th. Art Hernandez 21 1:38.94
8th. Josh Wilson 5 .29.34
4-cell/10.5, lipo/17.5
TQ Jeff Helms 61 4:01.683
1st. Jeff Helms 61 4:02.588
2nd. Raymond McCoy 60 4:03.432
3rd. Jim Hock 58 4:01.114
4th. Alan Hanna 57 4:03.317
5th. Perry Holland 56 4:04.232
6th. Wes Fukushim 54 4:03.152
lipo/10.5 Sportsman Mod
TQ Jim Hock 61 4:01.136
1st. Jim Hock 59 4:03.868
2nd. Jim Thomas 57 4:01.339
3rd. Pete Jereb 52 4:03.051
4th. Mike Fleek 18 1:18.997
4-cell Pro Mod
TQ Jeff Helms 66 4:02.628
1st. Jeff Helms 66 4:03.035
2nd. Raymond McCoy 65 4:00.453
3rd. Keoni Ahyat 65 4:02.846
4th. Scott McCunn 54 3:37.232
Congrats to all the winners! Thanks for coming!!!
TQ Robin Young 47 4:01.317
1st. Robin Young 47 4:01.770
2nd. Jordan McCunn 45 4:00.975
3rd. Alan Hanna 43 4:04.403
4th. Joe Krosner 42 4:03.936
5th. Tyler Wible 39 4:04.704
4-cell/13.5, lipo/21.5 Pro Stock
TQ Paul Cathey 55 4:01
1st. Jeff Helms 54 4:03.273
2nd. Paul Cathey 54 4:03.387
3rd. Scott McCunn 53 4:02.391
4th. Bryan Blaser 53 4:03.083
5th. Joe Wilson 51 4:02.746
6th. Dan Wood 48 4:04
7th. Art Hernandez 21 1:38.94
8th. Josh Wilson 5 .29.34
4-cell/10.5, lipo/17.5
TQ Jeff Helms 61 4:01.683
1st. Jeff Helms 61 4:02.588
2nd. Raymond McCoy 60 4:03.432
3rd. Jim Hock 58 4:01.114
4th. Alan Hanna 57 4:03.317
5th. Perry Holland 56 4:04.232
6th. Wes Fukushim 54 4:03.152
lipo/10.5 Sportsman Mod
TQ Jim Hock 61 4:01.136
1st. Jim Hock 59 4:03.868
2nd. Jim Thomas 57 4:01.339
3rd. Pete Jereb 52 4:03.051
4th. Mike Fleek 18 1:18.997
4-cell Pro Mod
TQ Jeff Helms 66 4:02.628
1st. Jeff Helms 66 4:03.035
2nd. Raymond McCoy 65 4:00.453
3rd. Keoni Ahyat 65 4:02.846
4th. Scott McCunn 54 3:37.232
Congrats to all the winners! Thanks for coming!!!
04-07-2008, 02:24 PM
#12
Congrats to all of the winners! It was fun to race oval again with everyone. Thanks to Raymond and Scott for putting the race on.We will have to plan this race again next year at the new SRS track. Pictures should be posted on the Pro-Match site in the next couple days.
Keoni
Keoni
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