ROAR Offroad Electric Nats @ Hot Rod Hobbies!
05-07-2008, 09:22 AM
#49
Well, here are the rules right out the book though...... 
8.8.4.3 Winding:
Modified Brushless Motors: Only three slot (phase) “Y” wound stators are
permitted. No delta wound stators allowed. Only circular (round) pure copper wire
permitted. No turn limit.
Stock Motor: Only three slot “Y” wound stators are permitted. No delta wound or
slot less stators are allowed. Only circular (round) pure copper magnet wire
permitted. The three slotted stator must be wound with 17.5 turns of 2 strands of
20 AWG or 2 strands of 0.80 mm IEC per slot. The inductance for each slot of the
stator shall be 102.00 Micro Henries minimum and 108.00 Micro Henries
maximum, measured with the rotor removed from the motor.
Super Stock Motor: Only three slot “Y” wound stators are permitted. No delta
wound or slot less stators are allowed. Only circular (round) pure copper magnet
wire permitted. The three slotted stator must be wound with 13.5 turns of 2
strands of 21 AWG or 2 strands of 0.71mm IEC and two strands of 23 AWG or 2
strands of 0.56mm IEC per slot. The inductance for each slot of the stator shall be
57.00 Micro Henries minimum and 67.00 Micro Henries maximum, measured with
the rotor removed from the motor.
8.8.4.3 Winding:
Modified Brushless Motors: Only three slot (phase) “Y” wound stators are
permitted. No delta wound stators allowed. Only circular (round) pure copper wire
permitted. No turn limit.
Stock Motor: Only three slot “Y” wound stators are permitted. No delta wound or
slot less stators are allowed. Only circular (round) pure copper magnet wire
permitted. The three slotted stator must be wound with 17.5 turns of 2 strands of
20 AWG or 2 strands of 0.80 mm IEC per slot. The inductance for each slot of the
stator shall be 102.00 Micro Henries minimum and 108.00 Micro Henries
maximum, measured with the rotor removed from the motor.
Super Stock Motor: Only three slot “Y” wound stators are permitted. No delta
wound or slot less stators are allowed. Only circular (round) pure copper magnet
wire permitted. The three slotted stator must be wound with 13.5 turns of 2
strands of 21 AWG or 2 strands of 0.71mm IEC and two strands of 23 AWG or 2
strands of 0.56mm IEC per slot. The inductance for each slot of the stator shall be
57.00 Micro Henries minimum and 67.00 Micro Henries maximum, measured with
the rotor removed from the motor.
05-07-2008, 10:28 AM
#50
Ok--
There will be a "spec" tire for stock and super stock. The details are being ironed out and should be finalized soon. You will be allowed 3 sets of front and rear tires for the event and one additional set if you make the AAA mains.
Stock will be any 27T ROAR legal motor (you choose as long as it is on the ROAR approved list) or any 17.5BL motor again on the ROAR approved list.
Super stock will be any 19T motor again on the ROAR approved list or any 10.5+ (meaning you can run 10.5, 11.5, 12.5, 13.5 .... ect.) BL motor in this class.
Lipo's approved by ROAR will be legal at this race for all classes as well.
Tires will be available at the track at a reduced cost to spec class racers. A decision of weather or not you have to buy them at the track or not is yet to be determined. If you do get to bring your own they will need to be in the original unopened package. Again still not finalized.
All this information and more will be available at www.hotrodhobbies.com very soon. As soon as I get "offical" word on the details I everything will be posted up soon!
Lastly. I tought for nationals you cannot run stock and mod at the same event. You can run stock and super stock OR super stock and mod but not stock and mod?
There will be a "spec" tire for stock and super stock. The details are being ironed out and should be finalized soon. You will be allowed 3 sets of front and rear tires for the event and one additional set if you make the AAA mains.
Stock will be any 27T ROAR legal motor (you choose as long as it is on the ROAR approved list) or any 17.5BL motor again on the ROAR approved list.
Super stock will be any 19T motor again on the ROAR approved list or any 10.5+ (meaning you can run 10.5, 11.5, 12.5, 13.5 .... ect.) BL motor in this class.
Lipo's approved by ROAR will be legal at this race for all classes as well.
Tires will be available at the track at a reduced cost to spec class racers. A decision of weather or not you have to buy them at the track or not is yet to be determined. If you do get to bring your own they will need to be in the original unopened package. Again still not finalized.
All this information and more will be available at www.hotrodhobbies.com very soon. As soon as I get "offical" word on the details I everything will be posted up soon!
Lastly. I tought for nationals you cannot run stock and mod at the same event. You can run stock and super stock OR super stock and mod but not stock and mod?
05-07-2008, 10:32 AM
#51
Tech Master
Do we have a masters class
05-07-2008, 11:28 AM
#53
Tech Fanatic
Thread Starter
More info......
You can race stock and super stock or super stock and modified but you can not race stock and mod. This is the final word on this matter.
Due to lack of support juniors and masters will not be offered this year.
Although it does state, as Steve Butts stated, in rule 8.8.4.3 that stock and 17.5 will race together as well as 19T and 13.5, this is not correct. If you read further down in the rules you will see 12.4.6.3 states that for 2008 10.5 is as low as you can go for super stock (19T). In 2009 the rule will change and 13.5 and 19T will be the norm.
We are working on some fun activities to do around town during nats week so stay tuned.
It's time to focus on the nats warm up race otherwise known as the Hot Rod Hobbies Offroad Shootout which is less than 2 months away! The same classe will be offered at the Shootout to get things ready for the Nats. In addition to the Nats classes we have offered a Rookie class along with 1/10 2wd gas truck classes.
Check out www.hotrodhobbies.com for a Shootout flyer!
You can race stock and super stock or super stock and modified but you can not race stock and mod. This is the final word on this matter.
Due to lack of support juniors and masters will not be offered this year.
Although it does state, as Steve Butts stated, in rule 8.8.4.3 that stock and 17.5 will race together as well as 19T and 13.5, this is not correct. If you read further down in the rules you will see 12.4.6.3 states that for 2008 10.5 is as low as you can go for super stock (19T). In 2009 the rule will change and 13.5 and 19T will be the norm.
We are working on some fun activities to do around town during nats week so stay tuned.
It's time to focus on the nats warm up race otherwise known as the Hot Rod Hobbies Offroad Shootout which is less than 2 months away! The same classe will be offered at the Shootout to get things ready for the Nats. In addition to the Nats classes we have offered a Rookie class along with 1/10 2wd gas truck classes.
Check out www.hotrodhobbies.com for a Shootout flyer!
05-07-2008, 11:41 AM
#54
Ok it is official.
You can buy your tires anywhere. Here is the stipulation. They must be in the original bag WITH THE HEADER CARD STILL ATTACHED to go through tech. This is only required for tires used in the race.
Hot Rod Hobbies will have an ample supply of tires AT A REDUCED COST to the racers a month before the race. These will be sold only to those in the spec classes to ensure you can purchase the correct tires at the event, and save some money!
Again you will be allowed 3 sets of tires for the 4 rounds of qualifying and the main. (5 runs total).
If you make the AAA main event you be allowed one additional set of tires.
2wd:
Front - Losi Silver Taper Pin, Part # 7207S (Silver Compound)
Rear - Losi Red BK Bar, Part # 7371R (Red Compound)
4wd:
Font - Losi Taper Pins, part # 7285S (Silver Compound)
Rear - Losi BK Bar, part # 7371R (Red Compound)
Truck:
Front - Losi Silver Taper Pin, part # 7635S (Silver Compound)
Losi King Pin, part # 7637R (Red Compound)
The flier is being revised as I type this and should be out soon.
If you would like to be one of the first to sign up, on-line registration is being done through www.liverc.com
Here is a direct link to the Electric Nationals registration page.
http://liverc.rccars.com/event_regis...php?event_id=9
You can buy your tires anywhere. Here is the stipulation. They must be in the original bag WITH THE HEADER CARD STILL ATTACHED to go through tech. This is only required for tires used in the race.
Hot Rod Hobbies will have an ample supply of tires AT A REDUCED COST to the racers a month before the race. These will be sold only to those in the spec classes to ensure you can purchase the correct tires at the event, and save some money!
Again you will be allowed 3 sets of tires for the 4 rounds of qualifying and the main. (5 runs total).
If you make the AAA main event you be allowed one additional set of tires.
2wd:
Front - Losi Silver Taper Pin, Part # 7207S (Silver Compound)
Rear - Losi Red BK Bar, Part # 7371R (Red Compound)
4wd:
Font - Losi Taper Pins, part # 7285S (Silver Compound)
Rear - Losi BK Bar, part # 7371R (Red Compound)
Truck:
Front - Losi Silver Taper Pin, part # 7635S (Silver Compound)
Losi King Pin, part # 7637R (Red Compound)
The flier is being revised as I type this and should be out soon.
If you would like to be one of the first to sign up, on-line registration is being done through www.liverc.com
Here is a direct link to the Electric Nationals registration page.
http://liverc.rccars.com/event_regis...php?event_id=9
05-07-2008, 12:13 PM
#55
More info......
Although it does state, as Steve Butts stated, in rule 8.8.4.3 that stock and 17.5 will race together as well as 19T and 13.5, this is not correct. If you read further down in the rules you will see 12.4.6.3 states that for 2008 10.5 is as low as you can go for super stock (19T). In 2009 the rule will change and 13.5 and 19T will be the norm.
Check out www.hotrodhobbies.com for a Shootout flyer!
Although it does state, as Steve Butts stated, in rule 8.8.4.3 that stock and 17.5 will race together as well as 19T and 13.5, this is not correct. If you read further down in the rules you will see 12.4.6.3 states that for 2008 10.5 is as low as you can go for super stock (19T). In 2009 the rule will change and 13.5 and 19T will be the norm.
Check out www.hotrodhobbies.com for a Shootout flyer!
See, I knew I saw that somewhere....
05-07-2008, 04:42 PM
#57
Tech Master
Ok Jimmy how can the rule for the masters class get overturned because some of us would like race and not compete with the youngesters . I m spending $80.00 + to race
05-07-2008, 05:04 PM
#58
They are running a Master's class at the 2008 ROAR Asphalt
Nationals.
Nationals.
05-07-2008, 06:50 PM
#59
If you got so many to commit, would you then have a Masters class
05-08-2008, 12:00 AM
#60
Tech Apprentice
In the spec classes that require a certain tire are we allowed to use any foam inserts or do we have to use the stock inserts?
Thanks in advanced
Thanks in advanced