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Old 07-20-2006, 08:02 PM
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Does anyone know of a brand of lacquer thinner other than pactra/testors that uses methyl isobutyl ketone?

The Pactra Racing Finish paints will reduce well using a toluene based thinner, but clean up is a royal pain in the butt. The lacquer used in them is methyl isobutyl ketone and the toluene doesn't dissolve the paint on contact. Can anyone reccomend a brand of lacquer thinner that is compatible that doesn't cost 5 to 8 bucks a half pint?

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i tried using acetone, it seemed to work better than the laquer thinner i was using.
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How about methyl ethyl ketone? Anyone know how well that will work in place of the isobutyl? I'm not a chemical engineer and I don't want to go screwing around mixing things and blow my house up...
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Howzabout this:

Klean Strip Methyl ethyl ketone

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Originally Posted by RcCzarOfOld
How about methyl ethyl ketone? Anyone know how well that will work in place of the isobutyl? I'm not a chemical engineer and I don't want to go screwing around mixing things and blow my house up...


I do believe that any chemical cleaner with ketones will work, and that M.E.K. will work fastest.
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Thanks phat. I was just up there today and had a quart of it in my hand, but I wasn't absolutely sure... I think I'll pick some up tomorrow and give it a shot. Now, can I mix that with the toluene based lacquer thinner without having like spontaneous combustion and blowing up my house? Wonder how it'll work on tires...
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To test, you could mix the two 1:1, outside of course. I doubt there will be a catastrophic outcome, but take precautions. I'd wear some gloves, and definitely goggles. Chemists wear that stuff for a reason......


I've seen many cleaners with ketones in them, so M.E.K. is likely stable.



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I'm going to run down to home depot to get the Klean Strip tomorow. I'm going to try using it instead of the laquer thinner I bought a while back. It should work just like the Pactra/Testors stuff. I had given up on being able to find an alternative. Thanks both of you for bringing up this question and anwsering it. I'll post back on how it works.
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Originally Posted by Rapid Roy
I'm going to run down to home depot to get the Klean Strip tomorow. I'm going to try using it instead of the laquer thinner I bought a while back. It should work just like the Pactra/Testors stuff. I had given up on being able to find an alternative. Thanks both of you for bringing up this question and anwsering it. I'll post back on how it works.
ketones are fricken bad for your health! always use a carbon mask equiped full face filter and have a fan positioned next to your work sucking away the air
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Hey TomB,

I always use an AOSafety dual cartridge carbon respirator. I know a few people that don't... I really don't expect them to see 50...

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I do use a dual canister respirator when spraying paint. Are you saying that the M.E.K. available at Home Depot is somehow more harmful then the Pactra/Testors laquer thinner? It's also importaint to use the respirator because the paint particals lodge in your lungs and never comes out.
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Originally Posted by RcCzarOfOld
Hey TomB,

I always use an AOSafety dual cartridge carbon respirator. I know a few people that don't... I really don't expect them to see 50...

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yeah i don't know why they sell this as a cleaning agent. i try to avoid pactra paints for this reason. thinners and acetone are also a dangerous substance. i've read that event he carbon masks don't filter keytones.

stick to fascolour man. even spaz stix's has keytones in it
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