Hi, I am new here.
I have an FG Sportsline 08 short chassis GT3.
I made many upgrades: 4 tuning cable brakes, exhaust mielke, air filter mielke, alu differential, clutch 3x lauterbacker, prepared zenoah 230, alu fast engine connection, dumper shocks alu 5 holes, ecc.
Now the question is:
how to make a good set-up? Does it need different set-up and tires than the long chassis, isn't it?
Which are your concerns?
Thanks a lot for your help, guys.
Max
Hi, I am new here.
I have an FG Sportsline 08 short chassis GT3.
I made many upgrades: 4 tuning cable brakes, exhaust mielke, air filter mielke, alu differential, clutch 3x lauterbacker, prepared zenoah 230, alu fast engine connection, dumper shocks alu 5 holes, ecc.
Now the question is:
how to make a good set-up? Does it need different set-up and tires than the long chassis, isn't it?
Which are your concerns?
Thanks a lot for your help, guys.
Max
I guess you are running the 911 997 GT3 body??? Sweet!!!!
i never seen a medium chassis, but I would guess that the setup should be about the same. And keep something in mind, the good thing about the sportline cars (flexible chassis) is that you don't need a perfect setup. What I mean is that the flexible chassis will hide a bad setup car and a rigid chassis (like EVO chassis) you must a a good setup otherwise the car will be undrivable.
I will stay close to the setup of an EVo car. Do a search on this forum on the Large Scale forum and you will find very good info.
I am guessing since you have a 911 body, you must be running GT. Cool. We need them on Saturday.
LRR
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Hi Luis, thanks for the answer.
Yes, I've got the GT3. I like it a lot. I just made it in some colour that I don't like very much, the next one will be better.
I'm also using a Seat Leon Body.
I well understand that our sportsline is flexible, but we must have a good point to start. Do you agree?
Chassis height, shocks oil, camber, toe in/out, and so on...and good upgrade to do!
Hi, I am new here.
I have an FG Sportsline 08 short chassis GT3.
I made many upgrades: 4 tuning cable brakes, exhaust mielke, air filter mielke, alu differential, clutch 3x lauterbacker, prepared zenoah 230, alu fast engine connection, dumper shocks alu 5 holes, ecc.
Now the question is:
how to make a good set-up? Does it need different set-up and tires than the long chassis, isn't it?
Which are your concerns?
Thanks a lot for your help, guys.
Max
FG Red springs allround is very good springs to go with on any track, you never have bad grip what i experienced. try original shock oil, but maybe 5000 in the rear and 7000 in front is the way to go if it doesnt work so well with original oil. This works with Short Chassies.
The medium and long chassies red springs in rear and blue in front is the best setup sofar i tried. But you need to change the lower plastic shock holders for the longer ones insteed of original short ones.
3 toe in rear and 1-0.5 toe out in front for all chassies. Camber in 0 degree in front hold down! and 1-2 degree in rear.
Under 10mm ride height rear and under 9mm in front without petrol in the tank.
PM me or Mail me and i will tell you some tips.
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Car(s):Kyosho SHIN Edition@MazdaSpeed
FG GT CUP -08 Chassies
Thanks guys!!!
I'm from Italy, tomorrow I'll have a friendly race at minicar Fiorano (1 mile far from Ferrari's factory)
I already have red spring rear, violet front.
Oil 5000 front/3000 rear with alloy piston.
Andy, when you say " lower plastic shock holders " you mean where the shock is connected to the lower arm?
Yes, massimoan. i mean the plastic holders thats connected to the lower rear arm
It sounds like a very strange setup :S if it doesnt work, use red in front and use 7000 oil in front and 5000 in the rear. Then you have a perfect allround or basic setup. Trust me, we from sweden know our large scale stuff
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Car(s):Kyosho SHIN Edition@MazdaSpeed
FG GT CUP -08 Chassies
Thanks Andy.
I think you were right.
My car was probably too soft.
I was in Fiorano (minicarfiorano .it) with the setup you gave me, that was quite the same I generally used there.
I started with tires GRP C front and A rear. The car has the rear in big oversteer. Than I put the GRP A also in front and then it was much better, with a little bit too much understeer. I was not able to correct that understeer. Was it because of my shocks oil too soft?
What can I do in that case in order to reduce the understeer?
What setup did you run with to produce an understeer? Becuse that setup is very good basic at any track so it should work. here in sweden we only use GRP C tires. But you should get rid of some understeer with same tires allround. But if you dont get rid of the understeer. Make the rear a little bit higher. Like 10mm in rear and 7mm in front. It can work.
But tell me what setup you use and i maybe can help you
EDIT: I watched the track and it looks very fast. So my recomend is to not make the car higher :P under 10mm is fine becuse the car gets lower when the oil gets hot and the car lowers itself a bit.
But my suggestion is to use yellow progressive or original yellow springs at a track like that fast.
The oil should be the same. Maybe you should ude 4000 or 3000 oil in rear, depends how the car feels when you turn the car.
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FG GT CUP -08 Chassies
Hi Andy, I have to explain you a bit....
First, I used the shocks piston rear in alloy, while the front had new one in teflon with 3 holes. They sold me these in teflon saying that these are better than the standard FG gives with the sportsline.
They told me the teflon are like the alloy one, without the ring in order to avoid maintenance. The difference in that the one in alloy has 5 holes, the teflon's 3 holes.
I had 4 red progressive springs.
So, I put oil FG 3.000 in rear and in front, considering that in front there are just 3 holes, this should mean more density in front. Am I wrong?
What difference can give an oil so soft instead of the harder you told me?
Than, I started with 4 GRP C front and A rear. Temperature air 20°, track near 50°. The car had a lot oversteering, so someone told me to put also in front GRP A.
This because at that high temperature the A didn't permit the car to have too much front handling and so giving understeer.
That worked, the car was quite better balanced, I found just a little bit understeer that I was not able to reduce also giving more steering by the radio.
The track is very fast, you are right. Max speed I had was 80 km/h.
Why do you say to use rear softer springs on a fast track?
Thanks a lot.
Max
ps: next time I'll put 5.000 rear oil and 7000 front oil
EDIT: I watched the track and it looks very fast. So my recomend is to not make the car higher :P under 10mm is fine becuse the car gets lower when the oil gets hot and the car lowers itself a bit.
But my suggestion is to use yellow progressive or original yellow springs at a track like that fast.
The oil should be the same. Maybe you should ude 4000 or 3000 oil in rear, depends how the car feels when you turn the car.
FG silicon oil does not get thinner when it's hot. The viscocity stays the same. And even if it did get thinner, it wouldn't make the car lower. The oil only controls the speed of the shock movement. The spring controls ride height.
Nobody knows the difference between the shock plastic piston 3 holes (code 7205/03) and the alloy one (code 7084)?
My reseller told me that they are the same, so they must use the same oil, but I'm not sure.
I have the plastic one in the front, and the alloy one in rear. Do I still have to use 7000 front and 5000 rear oil?
Or, maybe, tha fact the one has only 3 holes signify that I must use a less harder oil?
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