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Old 04-23-2013, 09:14 AM   #4606
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THink clearly here, common sence. Why would Novarossi, with a reputation to uphold, ship a used engine. If somebody sold you a used engine it was the HOBBY SHOP where you bought it. They should be ones that will be getting the consumer report, NOT Novarossi.

Like you said, the HOBBY SHOP sold you the motor, not Nova. Plus you explained to them that you were new to the hobby and probably tried to pull a fast one on you. How do you know that it wasnt the HOBBY SHOP that used it before they sold it too you?
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Thank you. Well im new to rc and when I explained this to the hobby shop they sold me what I thought was a new motor but when my friend had a look as he was going to fit it all up to the car he told me it was used and take it back. Long story short they pretty much refused to replace it with a new one nor refund me so I put in a complaint to consumer affairs I attached pictures with descriptions
Show us the box. And the side of the piston.
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:54 AM   #4608
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Thank you. Well im new to rc and when I explained this to the hobby shop they sold me what I thought was a new motor but when my friend had a look as he was going to fit it all up to the car he told me it was used and take it back. Long story short they pretty much refused to replace it with a new one nor refund me so I put in a complaint to consumer affairs I attached pictures with descriptions
The hobby shop probably sell u something which is not come as fresh box ( not sealed box ).
The engine probably is still unbroken ..... however, the engine has been installed on the car with pipe on, and the engine's head has been opened for unknown reasons. The hobby shop should explain about unsealed box before selling it to you. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REJECT IT. The shop should replace it with new one...... or you can tell us the shop name.

However, IF the shop has warned you, and / or selling it to you at amazing price , .... then you get what you paid for.

Brand new novarossi engines comes with sealed wrapping box and security sticker on the box.
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:25 PM   #4609
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LOL THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NOVAROSSI ITS THE HOBBY SHOP IM COMPLAINING ABOUT. They sold me a motor as new no mention of pre run or use was mentioned. Even if it was pre run there are no spring marks on the N and theres no dirt in the fins so this is a used products. Ahh well I learnt my lesson
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Old 05-06-2013, 05:04 PM   #4610
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Hello. I have Novarossi .21 35 plus and new Virtus

I am from europe and this year we are running with 16% nitro, can anyone help me with the correct:
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Shimming the motor

My temp is from 50f in winter to 90f summer
humidity. is from 30 to 75%
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Old 05-07-2013, 01:28 AM   #4611
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Remove 0.1 or 0.15mm
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Leave the shimming at stock from Factory removing 0.1mm shim will just increase the stress on your con-rod and for very little performance gain.

These engines run absolutely fine on 16% without changing the factory shimming!
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Leave the shimming at stock from Factory removing 0.1mm shim will just increase the stress on your con-rod and for very little performance gain.

These engines run absolutely fine on 16% without changing the factory shimming!
16% nitro with 0.1mm removed will create the same stress as 25% nitro answer stock shimming.I think the rod will be fine..
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It is all about ignition timing. with 16% you normally will shift it to a later moment and with removing one shim you will correct this to the right moment. As plug you can use the same, the 8 or a 7.
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I'm just talking from experience here in the UK we've moved to 16% from 25% and most racers who've removed the 0.1mm shim have blown their engine within a few rounds of racing including myself.

Many racers who've tested these engines extensively have realised that there's very little to gain and far more to lose.
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Old 05-07-2013, 01:29 PM   #4616
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I can imagine some engines are already low on the head clearance wit a 0.5 to 0.55mm, going lower and having some play on the bearing and rod it is very possible the piston will touch the head. But it must be possible because on higher altitudes you also have to remove a shim.

But in the case of not removing shims it is wise to go lower on the plug, use a 7 or a 6
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I think a lot depends on the track. If you are running really long tracks, you probably should have added a shim for 25%, in which case you could remove that shim for going to 16%. If you didn't add a shim, then stock will probably be fine for 16%.

Short tracks, stock for 25, -.1 for 16 might be a better combo.

Of course, all this depends on the motor too.

It's also possible that the 25% you were running was really closer to 20, while the 16% actually is 16, thus not much difference.
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With 0.15 and 0.25mm shims it is also possible to go down with just 0.05mm

It would not supprise me if new buttons special for 16% are made for teamdrivers.
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Old 05-07-2013, 03:34 PM   #4619
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OK.
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C6TGH

Now we are using 16% nitro so is logical plugs of 1/10!?

Novarossi plugs:
C5TGH - for ambient temperature 1/10: 0C/10C ~ 32F/50F

C5TGF - for ambient temperature 1/10: 0C/15C ~ 32F/59F

C6TGH - for ambient temperature 1/10: 5C/25C ~ 41F/77F

C6TGF - for ambient temperature 1/10: 10C/40C ~ 50F/104F

C7TGH - per temperture ambiente comprese tra 0C/10C (1/8) e tra 20C/40C (1/10)

C7TGF - for ambient temperature 1/8: 0C/10C ~ 32F/50F; 1/10: 20C/40C ~ 68F/104F
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When you go with 16pct nitro, your car will be operating slower at straight lane and corner exit, .... so be carefull with faster cars coming from behind your car.
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