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Old 05-03-2007, 10:06 PM   #2146
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No, it's not. It's closer to the MT12 from the late 90's with an offroad crank in it.

I will take some pics tonight and post them here and you"ll see what I'm talking about.

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If you take your 353 apart also will post some pics of it also..
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:34 AM   #2147
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I'm not crazy enought to pay that much money for the 353 package. I'm trying to fix the N12P of a friend who bought the package and was shocked when he saw the N12P
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I'm not crazy enought to pay that much money for the 353 package. I'm trying to fix the N12P of a friend who bought the package and was shocked when he saw the N12P
So how much does it cost where you live stefan?
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Old 05-04-2007, 03:06 PM   #2149
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the list price in germany is 590 euro = 801 usd,
i think streetprice around 500 euro = 679 usd

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No, it's not. It's closer to the MT12 from the late 90's with an offroad crank in it.

I will take some pics tonight and post them here and you"ll see what I'm talking about.

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doesn't really matter how it looks............

excepot for the standard plug head button the engine is like the NS12P3......

it uses the same p/s set, cranckcase, bearings, carburettor, rear cover, etc, etc, etc.........

it can be a little bit slower than the P3 due to the standard plug, but it's far from being a piece of junk..............i'm not saying WOW what a great deal, but being ugly is not the reason for this engine perform very bad.......
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Old 05-05-2007, 01:29 AM   #2151
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doesn't really matter how it looks............

excepot for the standard plug head button the engine is like the NS12P3......

it uses the same p/s set, cranckcase, bearings, carburettor, rear cover, etc, etc, etc.........

it can be a little bit slower than the P3 due to the standard plug, but it's far from being a piece of junk..............i'm not saying WOW what a great deal, but being ugly is not the reason for this engine perform very bad.......
Yeah, but you are overlooking the most important part, the crankshaft and that's where it becomes strange. Try to find this crank on another engine. You won't.

It's the worst crank I've ever seen from NR and it's a power killer....
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Yeah, but you are overlooking the most important part, the crankshaft and that's where it becomes strange. Try to find this crank on another engine. You won't.

It's the worst crank I've ever seen from NR and it's a power killer....
post a pic of the crank..
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it can be a little bit slower than the P3 due to the standard plug, but it's far from being a piece of junk..............
STANDARD PLUG???? I just canīt believe. NR has just lost a loyal customer....
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STANDARD PLUG???? I just canīt believe. NR has just lost a loyal customer....
you can count on another..
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i think NR think they can do what ever they like cause they now they are the best manufacture in the world they have moved from maximum quality to maximum profit
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Old 05-06-2007, 12:53 AM   #2156
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Here are the pics:

On the left is the NS12P crank, on the right a 6 year old MT12 crank. You can see that the induction opening one the N12P is even shorter than on the MT12.


Here is the counter weight:



and the sleeve with the strange exhaust port and the long connecting rod from the MT12



This engine is set upfor stadium trucks.
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Is this sleeve from a MR12:

Im am sorry but these 2 engines are way not worth 500.00 plus..
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I have an mega MF .12 engine and i used Mega glow plugs. i heard Mega glow plugs are made by Picco. So can i use Novarossi or JP Glow plugs in my engine and are they better that the Mega glow plugs?
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I have an mega MF .12 engine and i used Mega glow plugs. i heard Mega glow plugs are made by Picco. So can i use Novarossi or JP Glow plugs in my engine and are they better that the Mega glow plugs?
I recommend that you use a nova rossi plug for the MF as it is nova based.
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I have an mega MF .12 engine and i used Mega glow plugs. i heard Mega glow plugs are made by Picco. So can i use Novarossi or JP Glow plugs in my engine and are they better that the Mega glow plugs?
JP plugs are Novarossi plugs just in a different package, and the MF.12 is a novarossi based engine, but I would deff use Nova plugs..
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