Break-In Fuel Necessary ?
02-18-2016, 07:40 PM
#2
Tech Regular
I don't think synthetic oils are best for break in. Go check out Bones Brew fuels and get a quart of his break in fuel. I promise it will not disappoint.
02-18-2016, 10:28 PM
#3
Not necessary. Run-in the engine on the fuel it's going to race on.
If your using a reputable fuel with a solid and proven lubrication package, the amount of good lubricants your engine will get by running somewhat rich initially will suffice nicely for bedding in.
Then just steadily lean it out as the run-in process wears on.
That way it's getting the same fuel properties through it right from the start.
No need for special run-in potions. We have never used them (on the run-in bench), nor recommend them to our customers - and we get great performance and longevity with all our customers engines.
If your using a reputable fuel with a solid and proven lubrication package, the amount of good lubricants your engine will get by running somewhat rich initially will suffice nicely for bedding in.
Then just steadily lean it out as the run-in process wears on.
That way it's getting the same fuel properties through it right from the start.
No need for special run-in potions. We have never used them (on the run-in bench), nor recommend them to our customers - and we get great performance and longevity with all our customers engines.
02-18-2016, 10:49 PM
#4
Tech Master
If you are using byrons 25/30-11 you do not need a breakein fuel. If you are using worldsblend i advice to have 2-3% Byron Lubebooster added to the fuel.
02-19-2016, 03:55 AM
#6
The Bones Breakin just speeds up the process of breakin.. . I have been personally using that formula for many years with fantastic results..I would not say its necessary but it certainly helps !
02-19-2016, 05:48 AM
#7
Tech Adept
Bones break is really good. Shortens the break in time a lot.
02-19-2016, 06:05 AM
#8
How does it shorten the break-in time?
I tend to think break-in is overrated. Talk of two-gallon break-ins is vastly exaggerated IMO. No engine should "need" more than half a gallon to be broken in and ready to rip, if maybe with a slightly richer setting to be on the safe side... I've even seen people talk about doing eight break-in tanks on super tight Alphas for ex., then throwing them on the track at race pace and having them run eight gallons without issue. No, I didn't experience that first hand, but my first-hand experience leads me to believe it's entirely realistic.
I tend to think break-in is overrated. Talk of two-gallon break-ins is vastly exaggerated IMO. No engine should "need" more than half a gallon to be broken in and ready to rip, if maybe with a slightly richer setting to be on the safe side... I've even seen people talk about doing eight break-in tanks on super tight Alphas for ex., then throwing them on the track at race pace and having them run eight gallons without issue. No, I didn't experience that first hand, but my first-hand experience leads me to believe it's entirely realistic.
02-19-2016, 06:30 AM
#9
Tech Addict
itīs all about the purity and quality of elements going thru an engine.
thatīs something people often forgot or even donīt realize.
highest purity available on the market for methanol, nitro & oil is essential.
people buying 500$ engines and give it crappy food and no clean air for example.
that will shorten break-in as well as life-time in general
thatīs something people often forgot or even donīt realize.
highest purity available on the market for methanol, nitro & oil is essential.
people buying 500$ engines and give it crappy food and no clean air for example.
that will shorten break-in as well as life-time in general
02-19-2016, 09:12 AM
#10
Tech Adept
How does it shorten the break-in time?
I tend to think break-in is overrated. Talk of two-gallon break-ins is vastly exaggerated IMO. No engine should "need" more than half a gallon to be broken in and ready to rip, if maybe with a slightly richer setting to be on the safe side... I've even seen people talk about doing eight break-in tanks on super tight Alphas for ex., then throwing them on the track at race pace and having them run eight gallons without issue. No, I didn't experience that first hand, but my first-hand experience leads me to believe it's entirely realistic.
I tend to think break-in is overrated. Talk of two-gallon break-ins is vastly exaggerated IMO. No engine should "need" more than half a gallon to be broken in and ready to rip, if maybe with a slightly richer setting to be on the safe side... I've even seen people talk about doing eight break-in tanks on super tight Alphas for ex., then throwing them on the track at race pace and having them run eight gallons without issue. No, I didn't experience that first hand, but my first-hand experience leads me to believe it's entirely realistic.
02-19-2016, 01:53 PM
#11
I don't like the sound of that to be honest.........
If a really tight engine is bedding in with only 1/4 of a gallon, then friction is the only thing working towards that outcome......
I can't imagine any lubricant additive causing accelerated wear, so what sort of additives are we talking about ?
Why would you want to see accelerated wear initially, then change over to a race fuel designed to do exactly the opposite ?
Everyone to their own I guess, but it sort of seems counter productive to me.
Purchase an engine with a precise piston sleeve tolerance to start with, and run it in slightly rich on race fuel. The KISS principle at work.
If a really tight engine is bedding in with only 1/4 of a gallon, then friction is the only thing working towards that outcome......
I can't imagine any lubricant additive causing accelerated wear, so what sort of additives are we talking about ?
Why would you want to see accelerated wear initially, then change over to a race fuel designed to do exactly the opposite ?
Everyone to their own I guess, but it sort of seems counter productive to me.
Purchase an engine with a precise piston sleeve tolerance to start with, and run it in slightly rich on race fuel. The KISS principle at work.
02-19-2016, 02:07 PM
#12
I don't like the sound of that to be honest.........
If a really tight engine is bedding in with only 1/4 of a gallon, then friction is the only thing working towards that outcome......
I can't imagine any lubricant additive causing accelerated wear, so what sort of additives are we talking about ?
Why would you want to see accelerated wear initially, then change over to a race fuel designed to do exactly the opposite ?
Everyone to their own I guess, but it sort of seems counter productive to me.
Purchase an engine with a precise piston sleeve tolerance to start with, and run it in slightly rich on race fuel. The KISS principle at work.
If a really tight engine is bedding in with only 1/4 of a gallon, then friction is the only thing working towards that outcome......
I can't imagine any lubricant additive causing accelerated wear, so what sort of additives are we talking about ?
Why would you want to see accelerated wear initially, then change over to a race fuel designed to do exactly the opposite ?
Everyone to their own I guess, but it sort of seems counter productive to me.
Purchase an engine with a precise piston sleeve tolerance to start with, and run it in slightly rich on race fuel. The KISS principle at work.
I've known Brent for a long time and trust his products. I have used the break-in fuel with good results, and wouldn't hesitate to use it again.
02-19-2016, 02:29 PM
#13
Sweet. I'm just curious as to how it achieves the results mentioned.I've heard the Bones Brew stuff is good, so I'm not out to knock anyone's products etc - just interested in the comments made that's all.
Always looking to learn something new.
02-19-2016, 04:22 PM
#14
Tech Regular
Just go over to the Bones section and read through it for all the info needed.
02-22-2016, 10:46 AM
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