Team Magic G4
#7546
Zoom is correct, I always find more traction with this setting. With less spacers, the rear feels very good, until the rear of the car collpases just as you want to get on the power ! I dont know whether this is supposed to happen in theory, and to be honest I dont care ! You just have to find what works on the track......
A general bit of advice....
I think you need to forget the theory, just find what works, and have confidence to stick to it. If you have a basic chassis setting that gives a balanced car with good rotation, which ever track you race on, you know that your car is ok. If the track has low traction, then adjust the tyres or wait for track conditions to improve. There is no point in setting a car up on a low grip track........
Good Luck.
#7547
Tech Elite
iTrader: (10)
Hi Gansei,
Zoom is correct, I always find more traction with this setting. With less spacers, the rear feels very good, until the rear of the car collpases just as you want to get on the power ! I dont know whether this is supposed to happen in theory, and to be honest I dont care ! You just have to find what works on the track......
A general bit of advice....
I think you need to forget the theory, just find what works, and have confidence to stick to it. If you have a basic chassis setting that gives a balanced car with good rotation, which ever track you race on, you know that your car is ok. If the track has low traction, then adjust the tyres or wait for track conditions to improve. There is no point in setting a car up on a low grip track........
Good Luck.
Zoom is correct, I always find more traction with this setting. With less spacers, the rear feels very good, until the rear of the car collpases just as you want to get on the power ! I dont know whether this is supposed to happen in theory, and to be honest I dont care ! You just have to find what works on the track......
A general bit of advice....
I think you need to forget the theory, just find what works, and have confidence to stick to it. If you have a basic chassis setting that gives a balanced car with good rotation, which ever track you race on, you know that your car is ok. If the track has low traction, then adjust the tyres or wait for track conditions to improve. There is no point in setting a car up on a low grip track........
Good Luck.
i have forgotten about theoryies, they seem to be right, but at times the opposite works LOL
#7549
#7550
I built a stock G4S a few month back to use as club chassis and was pleasantly surprised how well it ran with the silver spring with stock setup from manual.
Then again it would depend on your home track but its definately worth a try.
#7551
I was using the std spacer setup of 2 shims initially and after changing to muppets setup and adding 2 more shims the back end was noticeably better.
#7552
took the g4+ out for a run today
first there more sterring than the g4s
you will need to put the extra shims on the rear hubs to get more rear traction
the two speed will need ajusting as its not set a factory
a very easy and smooth car to drive with the basic set up
and basic driverc
first there more sterring than the g4s
you will need to put the extra shims on the rear hubs to get more rear traction
the two speed will need ajusting as its not set a factory
a very easy and smooth car to drive with the basic set up
and basic driverc
#7553
Tech Elite
iTrader: (46)
Made it to the A-main after 3 weeks :)
First I wanna thank everyone who has helped me with everything.
I'll give you a little run down of how it's been going down.
We are only 3 weeks into the point series
1st week made the b-main finished 4
2nd week made the b-main finished 1
3rd week made the a-main finished 3
I could have gotten 2nd yesterday but had some problem during the main.
First i cut a corner to sharp and ended up 3 feet in the air and landed on my back and ripped the wing off. Man do they make a difference. I had a hard time keep it straight on the straight but in the infield i loved the way the car felt. When i went into the turn the rear would get around so fast and it wouldnt break loose. Thats what i want.
My second problem was my 2nd speed gear stripped, maybe that was a good thing because if second would come in i might of spun out all the time without the wing.
Any tips on getting the rear to swing around but not break loose
I dont have my setup sheet with me but i'll try my best
spring front 1.6 rear 1.7
shock oil front/rear 60wt.
toe front 1.5 rear -2.5
camber front 2.5 rear 3.5
droop front 0 rear 3
rear diff 10k
roll bar front 0 rear 90
Again guys thanks for all the help..
I'll give you a little run down of how it's been going down.
We are only 3 weeks into the point series
1st week made the b-main finished 4
2nd week made the b-main finished 1
3rd week made the a-main finished 3
I could have gotten 2nd yesterday but had some problem during the main.
First i cut a corner to sharp and ended up 3 feet in the air and landed on my back and ripped the wing off. Man do they make a difference. I had a hard time keep it straight on the straight but in the infield i loved the way the car felt. When i went into the turn the rear would get around so fast and it wouldnt break loose. Thats what i want.
My second problem was my 2nd speed gear stripped, maybe that was a good thing because if second would come in i might of spun out all the time without the wing.
Any tips on getting the rear to swing around but not break loose
I dont have my setup sheet with me but i'll try my best
spring front 1.6 rear 1.7
shock oil front/rear 60wt.
toe front 1.5 rear -2.5
camber front 2.5 rear 3.5
droop front 0 rear 3
rear diff 10k
roll bar front 0 rear 90
Again guys thanks for all the help..
#7554
First I wanna thank everyone who has helped me with everything.
I'll give you a little run down of how it's been going down.
We are only 3 weeks into the point series
1st week made the b-main finished 4
2nd week made the b-main finished 1
3rd week made the a-main finished 3
I could have gotten 2nd yesterday but had some problem during the main.
First i cut a corner to sharp and ended up 3 feet in the air and landed on my back and ripped the wing off. Man do they make a difference. I had a hard time keep it straight on the straight but in the infield i loved the way the car felt. When i went into the turn the rear would get around so fast and it wouldnt break loose. Thats what i want.
My second problem was my 2nd speed gear stripped, maybe that was a good thing because if second would come in i might of spun out all the time without the wing.
Any tips on getting the rear to swing around but not break loose
I dont have my setup sheet with me but i'll try my best
spring front 1.6 rear 1.7
shock oil front/rear 60wt.
toe front 1.5 rear -2.5
camber front 2.5 rear 3.5
droop front 0 rear 3
rear diff 10k
roll bar front 0 rear 90
Again guys thanks for all the help..
I'll give you a little run down of how it's been going down.
We are only 3 weeks into the point series
1st week made the b-main finished 4
2nd week made the b-main finished 1
3rd week made the a-main finished 3
I could have gotten 2nd yesterday but had some problem during the main.
First i cut a corner to sharp and ended up 3 feet in the air and landed on my back and ripped the wing off. Man do they make a difference. I had a hard time keep it straight on the straight but in the infield i loved the way the car felt. When i went into the turn the rear would get around so fast and it wouldnt break loose. Thats what i want.
My second problem was my 2nd speed gear stripped, maybe that was a good thing because if second would come in i might of spun out all the time without the wing.
Any tips on getting the rear to swing around but not break loose
I dont have my setup sheet with me but i'll try my best
spring front 1.6 rear 1.7
shock oil front/rear 60wt.
toe front 1.5 rear -2.5
camber front 2.5 rear 3.5
droop front 0 rear 3
rear diff 10k
roll bar front 0 rear 90
Again guys thanks for all the help..
I know the feeling as i had a similar hassle when loosing a wing at a nat event earlier this year.
I guess to get that rear end a tad happier than it is ,maybe take out some rear toe or maybe even front caster as the car responds very well to caster changes.Personally i am more confident and faster with a understeering car than a oversteering one.
#7555
The std silver springs acyually work very well on med traction surfaces.
I built a stock G4S a few month back to use as club chassis and was pleasantly surprised how well it ran with the silver spring with stock setup from manual.
Then again it would depend on your home track but its definately worth a try.
I built a stock G4S a few month back to use as club chassis and was pleasantly surprised how well it ran with the silver spring with stock setup from manual.
Then again it would depend on your home track but its definately worth a try.
#7556
Hi Gansei,
Zoom is correct, I always find more traction with this setting. With less spacers, the rear feels very good, until the rear of the car collpases just as you want to get on the power ! I dont know whether this is supposed to happen in theory, and to be honest I dont care ! You just have to find what works on the track......
A general bit of advice....
I think you need to forget the theory, just find what works, and have confidence to stick to it. If you have a basic chassis setting that gives a balanced car with good rotation, which ever track you race on, you know that your car is ok. If the track has low traction, then adjust the tyres or wait for track conditions to improve. There is no point in setting a car up on a low grip track........
Good Luck.
Zoom is correct, I always find more traction with this setting. With less spacers, the rear feels very good, until the rear of the car collpases just as you want to get on the power ! I dont know whether this is supposed to happen in theory, and to be honest I dont care ! You just have to find what works on the track......
A general bit of advice....
I think you need to forget the theory, just find what works, and have confidence to stick to it. If you have a basic chassis setting that gives a balanced car with good rotation, which ever track you race on, you know that your car is ok. If the track has low traction, then adjust the tyres or wait for track conditions to improve. There is no point in setting a car up on a low grip track........
Good Luck.
i will keep your advice..
#7557
Any tips on getting the rear to swing around but not break loose
I dont have my setup sheet with me but i'll try my best
spring front 1.6 rear 1.7
shock oil front/rear 60wt.
toe front 1.5 rear -2.5
camber front 2.5 rear 3.5
droop front 0 rear 3
rear diff 10k
roll bar front 0 rear 90
Again guys thanks for all the help..
#7558
rear roll bar had two types... adjustable type VS wire type..
i used wire type in G4S.. and after conversion G4+.. i used adjustable type.
i know that adjustable type is harder than wire type.
and adjustable type can not do detail roll bar setup
i quess that My G4S+ lost rear traction compare with G4S because replaced rear roll bar
adjustable type had no tweak.
wire type had tweak.
so new rear roll bar is developing..
adjustable type had tweak!!!
i used wire type in G4S.. and after conversion G4+.. i used adjustable type.
i know that adjustable type is harder than wire type.
and adjustable type can not do detail roll bar setup
i quess that My G4S+ lost rear traction compare with G4S because replaced rear roll bar
adjustable type had no tweak.
wire type had tweak.
so new rear roll bar is developing..
adjustable type had tweak!!!
#7559
#7560
But i did not know the belt problem..
so.. my g4s was spinned on throttle in exit cornering and go straight on front of fense..