Serpent 705
03-11-2003, 01:23 PM
#661
THANKS,,
NO HERE IN PUERTO RICO ,, I'M THE GUY WHO CARES FOR THE SETUPS FOR THE CARS AND I'M USING A LITTLE DIFFERENT SET-UP FROM THE ONE SUPPLIED FROM MYTSN,,
FIRST I MEASURE THE FRONT DOWNSTOPS TO 1MM AND THE REAR IN 7MM,
THEN I PUT THE TIRES ON, AND MEASURE THE RIDE HEIGHT IN FRONT AT 5MM AND REAR 5.5MM, MAKING THE ADJUSTMENTS IN THE SHOCKS,
NOW I TAKE OFF THE TIRES, PUT THE CAR ON THE HUDDY AND MASURE THE FRONT TOE IN IN -1 DEGREE AND THE CAMBER IN -1 DEGREE, IN THE REAR I LIKE THE -2.5 TOE-IN AND -1 OF CAMBER, AFTER THAT I TOOK OFF THE HUDDY AND PUT THE TIRES AGAIN AND RECHECK THE RIDE HEIGHT, NOW I MEASURE THE DRIVING CAMBER WITH A CAMBER GAGE AND I SUPOSSE TO HAVE A -1 DEGREE IN ALL THE TIRES, THEN I GO TO THE TWEAK PART, IN FRONT AND REAR , AFTER THAT I RECHECK AGAIN THE RIDE HEIGHT ,,
SORRY I MISS THE SHOCKS, I LIKE TO USE THE ALL FOUR YELLOW SPRINGS 2 HOLES IN FRONT AND 3 ON THE REAR WITH THE STOCK SHOCK OIL AND STOCK MOUNTING POSITION AS SUPLIED ON THE MANUAL, BUT THE TIRES IS THE BIG THING HERE I'VE TRIED A DIFERENTS BRANDS OF TIRES AND I CHOOSE THE UFRA WITH THIS SET-UP 26MM IN FRONT 40 SHORE AND 30MM IN REAR 40 SHORE,
I CAN GET IN THE CORNER MORE FASTER AND THE CAR HANDLE GREAT AND WHEN I CAME OUT OF THE CORNER I HIT THE TRIGGER MORE EARLIER THAT I HIT IT BEFORE WITH OTHER BRANDS OF TIRES,, AND I'M TALKING OF SERIOUS ACCELERATION HERE GUYS, THANKS TO THE CENTAX CLUTCH,
WELL HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND ( I'M NOT VERY GOOD IN ENGLISH) JUST GIVE IT A TRY LATER, AND LET ME NOW, ANOTHER THING IS WE HAVE TIGHTS TRACKS HERE IN P.R. BUT I THINK THIS IS A STARTING POINT FOR YOUR LOCAL TRACK
WELL LIKE I SAID TO MY TEAM MATES WHEN ARE RUNNING AT THE TRACK, BURN THAT TIRES DUDE!!
CIAO!!
NO HERE IN PUERTO RICO ,, I'M THE GUY WHO CARES FOR THE SETUPS FOR THE CARS AND I'M USING A LITTLE DIFFERENT SET-UP FROM THE ONE SUPPLIED FROM MYTSN,,
FIRST I MEASURE THE FRONT DOWNSTOPS TO 1MM AND THE REAR IN 7MM,
THEN I PUT THE TIRES ON, AND MEASURE THE RIDE HEIGHT IN FRONT AT 5MM AND REAR 5.5MM, MAKING THE ADJUSTMENTS IN THE SHOCKS,
NOW I TAKE OFF THE TIRES, PUT THE CAR ON THE HUDDY AND MASURE THE FRONT TOE IN IN -1 DEGREE AND THE CAMBER IN -1 DEGREE, IN THE REAR I LIKE THE -2.5 TOE-IN AND -1 OF CAMBER, AFTER THAT I TOOK OFF THE HUDDY AND PUT THE TIRES AGAIN AND RECHECK THE RIDE HEIGHT, NOW I MEASURE THE DRIVING CAMBER WITH A CAMBER GAGE AND I SUPOSSE TO HAVE A -1 DEGREE IN ALL THE TIRES, THEN I GO TO THE TWEAK PART, IN FRONT AND REAR , AFTER THAT I RECHECK AGAIN THE RIDE HEIGHT ,,
SORRY I MISS THE SHOCKS, I LIKE TO USE THE ALL FOUR YELLOW SPRINGS 2 HOLES IN FRONT AND 3 ON THE REAR WITH THE STOCK SHOCK OIL AND STOCK MOUNTING POSITION AS SUPLIED ON THE MANUAL, BUT THE TIRES IS THE BIG THING HERE I'VE TRIED A DIFERENTS BRANDS OF TIRES AND I CHOOSE THE UFRA WITH THIS SET-UP 26MM IN FRONT 40 SHORE AND 30MM IN REAR 40 SHORE,
I CAN GET IN THE CORNER MORE FASTER AND THE CAR HANDLE GREAT AND WHEN I CAME OUT OF THE CORNER I HIT THE TRIGGER MORE EARLIER THAT I HIT IT BEFORE WITH OTHER BRANDS OF TIRES,, AND I'M TALKING OF SERIOUS ACCELERATION HERE GUYS, THANKS TO THE CENTAX CLUTCH,
WELL HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND ( I'M NOT VERY GOOD IN ENGLISH) JUST GIVE IT A TRY LATER, AND LET ME NOW, ANOTHER THING IS WE HAVE TIGHTS TRACKS HERE IN P.R. BUT I THINK THIS IS A STARTING POINT FOR YOUR LOCAL TRACK
WELL LIKE I SAID TO MY TEAM MATES WHEN ARE RUNNING AT THE TRACK, BURN THAT TIRES DUDE!!
CIAO!!
Thanks for the info Paul. I'll try the ufra tires this weekend and I tru my tires down to 62mm as a starting point.
03-11-2003, 06:19 PM
#663
you're welcome pit racer,,
I never trued out my tires, i should try that some day, but i don't have any clue how to start, so why don't you guys talk to me more about this topic, i apreciate it!!
I never trued out my tires, i should try that some day, but i don't have any clue how to start, so why don't you guys talk to me more about this topic, i apreciate it!!
03-11-2003, 07:01 PM
#664
its about this simple smaller tires are faster.
robert is correct on the clutch deal also.
robert is correct on the clutch deal also.
03-11-2003, 07:05 PM
#665
Originally posted by ammdrew
its about this simple smaller tires are faster.
robert is correct on the clutch deal also.
its about this simple smaller tires are faster.
robert is correct on the clutch deal also.
Cant argue with this philosophy. Smaller is faster is a nice way of looking at it.
03-11-2003, 07:14 PM
#666
Originally posted by PUNISHER
I agree!!
The 705 out of the box Rocks!!
I just put the bling bling or eye candy factor on the car for some purpose.
However, some of the hop-ups are a benefited for the car!! Like the alum. 16t pulley for the front belt that seems to get torn up with the plastic pulley. With the alum. pulley I have seen less strip front belts, go finger. Also the lightweight hollow mid shaft and Ti 2speed shaft has less rotation mass to the car. Have you felt the weight of those stock shafts!?!?!?!
Anyway my car is ROAR legal weight (60oz) with these little goodies on. So I don’t see anything to wrong about having a little eye candy!!
Pictures are from Nizze…Thanks!!
I agree!!
The 705 out of the box Rocks!!
I just put the bling bling or eye candy factor on the car for some purpose.
However, some of the hop-ups are a benefited for the car!! Like the alum. 16t pulley for the front belt that seems to get torn up with the plastic pulley. With the alum. pulley I have seen less strip front belts, go finger. Also the lightweight hollow mid shaft and Ti 2speed shaft has less rotation mass to the car. Have you felt the weight of those stock shafts!?!?!?!
Anyway my car is ROAR legal weight (60oz) with these little goodies on. So I don’t see anything to wrong about having a little eye candy!!
Pictures are from Nizze…Thanks!!
03-11-2003, 07:41 PM
#667
InitialD can you post the write up form MYTSN on modify clutch shoes?
I found the link that you where talking about earlier , it's very interesting
i guess i should try this later http://www.mytsn.com/publ/publ.asp?pid=5674
ciao!!
03-11-2003, 08:28 PM
#668
Tech Master
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paulfitipauldi,
That publication is half what I did to my clutch…….
That write up was done when they had the spring on the white shoes. The new centax II clutch has that style now but with a black shoe. The hole for the black shoes and the yellow shoe (in the write up) has the holes for the pin on the side of the shoe
The holes in my shoes are in the Middle of the shoe for a better movement for the shoes when engaged!! The holes on the side of the shoes makes the shoes swing up and out. Causing a late engagement. That’s why 9.2mm is too far for a measurement for the collect nut. I have mine at 9.5mm and it makes my clutch very snappy and very responsive!!
Notice the holes on the shoes......
That publication is half what I did to my clutch…….
That write up was done when they had the spring on the white shoes. The new centax II clutch has that style now but with a black shoe. The hole for the black shoes and the yellow shoe (in the write up) has the holes for the pin on the side of the shoe
The holes in my shoes are in the Middle of the shoe for a better movement for the shoes when engaged!! The holes on the side of the shoes makes the shoes swing up and out. Causing a late engagement. That’s why 9.2mm is too far for a measurement for the collect nut. I have mine at 9.5mm and it makes my clutch very snappy and very responsive!!
Notice the holes on the shoes......
03-11-2003, 08:52 PM
#670
Tech Regular
Originally posted by PUNISHER
paulfitipauldi,
That publication is half what I did to my clutch…….
That write up was done when they had the spring on the white shoes. The new centax II clutch has that style now but with a black shoe. The hole for the black shoes and the yellow shoe (in the write up) has the holes for the pin on the side of the shoe
The holes in my shoes are in the Middle of the shoe for a better movement for the shoes when engaged!! The holes on the side of the shoes makes the shoes swing up and out. Causing a late engagement. That’s why 9.2mm is too far for a measurement for the collect nut. I have mine at 9.5mm and it makes my clutch very snappy and very responsive!!
Notice the holes on the shoes......
paulfitipauldi,
That publication is half what I did to my clutch…….
That write up was done when they had the spring on the white shoes. The new centax II clutch has that style now but with a black shoe. The hole for the black shoes and the yellow shoe (in the write up) has the holes for the pin on the side of the shoe
The holes in my shoes are in the Middle of the shoe for a better movement for the shoes when engaged!! The holes on the side of the shoes makes the shoes swing up and out. Causing a late engagement. That’s why 9.2mm is too far for a measurement for the collect nut. I have mine at 9.5mm and it makes my clutch very snappy and very responsive!!
Notice the holes on the shoes......
These technology could be his Proprietary ... i did not know of anybody that do this his proven method. There goes his business.
03-11-2003, 08:55 PM
#671
Tech Regular
Originally posted by Ducati998
Hey Punisher does Jaco foam also fit the fronts? Thanx!
Hey Punisher does Jaco foam also fit the fronts? Thanx!
03-12-2003, 06:25 AM
#672
Originally posted by PUNISHER
paulfitipauldi,
That publication is half what I did to my clutch…….
That write up was done when they had the spring on the white shoes. The new centax II clutch has that style now but with a black shoe. The hole for the black shoes and the yellow shoe (in the write up) has the holes for the pin on the side of the shoe
The holes in my shoes are in the Middle of the shoe for a better movement for the shoes when engaged!! The holes on the side of the shoes makes the shoes swing up and out. Causing a late engagement. That’s why 9.2mm is too far for a measurement for the collect nut. I have mine at 9.5mm and it makes my clutch very snappy and very responsive!!
Notice the holes on the shoes......
paulfitipauldi,
That publication is half what I did to my clutch…….
That write up was done when they had the spring on the white shoes. The new centax II clutch has that style now but with a black shoe. The hole for the black shoes and the yellow shoe (in the write up) has the holes for the pin on the side of the shoe
The holes in my shoes are in the Middle of the shoe for a better movement for the shoes when engaged!! The holes on the side of the shoes makes the shoes swing up and out. Causing a late engagement. That’s why 9.2mm is too far for a measurement for the collect nut. I have mine at 9.5mm and it makes my clutch very snappy and very responsive!!
Notice the holes on the shoes......
Yeah right,, I understand what you're talking, but I was refering to the yellow shoes, looks the the same that you're using in your centax, I have the black ones, so I need the yellow ones and the modification have to be like you'rs, not the same as the black ones that I already have!!
03-12-2003, 06:54 AM
#673
Originally posted by nizee
Like mine with Jaco on the front, i add a washer before i put the tires.
Like mine with Jaco on the front, i add a washer before i put the tires.
03-12-2003, 06:59 AM
#674
It adds the correct amount of offset to allow the non elligi/serpent rims to fit without rubbing on the hub carriers.
I personally dont like this system as it allows the rims to buckle more easily under hard cornering. If you are handy with a fret saw, you could try making 1mm hex spacers from plywood. They are cheap and will give better support to the rim.
I personally dont like this system as it allows the rims to buckle more easily under hard cornering. If you are handy with a fret saw, you could try making 1mm hex spacers from plywood. They are cheap and will give better support to the rim.
03-12-2003, 07:32 AM
#675
Tech Regular
Originally posted by modellor
It adds the correct amount of offset to allow the non elligi/serpent rims to fit without rubbing on the hub carriers.
I personally dont like this system as it allows the rims to buckle more easily under hard cornering. If you are handy with a fret saw, you could try making 1mm hex spacers from plywood. They are cheap and will give better support to the rim.
It adds the correct amount of offset to allow the non elligi/serpent rims to fit without rubbing on the hub carriers.
I personally dont like this system as it allows the rims to buckle more easily under hard cornering. If you are handy with a fret saw, you could try making 1mm hex spacers from plywood. They are cheap and will give better support to the rim.
