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Old 07-04-2015, 04:55 PM
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Has anyone managed to stuff a .21 in a touring car?
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Yes. Around 10 years ago Schumacher had a 3 speed touring car with a .21 engine in. Used to do about 90mph.

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Yes. Around 10 years ago Schumacher had a 3 speed touring car with a .21 engine in. Used to do about 90mph.

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yeah i remember the fusion correct?
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I'm looking for someone that fabricated a race .21 in a sedan
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Why? the smaller .12 and .15 do run the same RPM, if you want to have a bennefit of an .21 you do need different gears outside from what is available.

But there is a .21 and a .26 smallblock called Picco P2-max
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I'm looking for someone that fabricated a race .21 in a sedan
................Follow this link illmatic94 there is a ton of picture and articles on putting a .21 in a 1/10 chassis. Here is the link...http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-r...me-inside.html Just be prepared to do alot of hand fitting of parts and making your own parts.
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Why? the smaller .12 and .15 do run the same RPM, if you want to have a bennefit of an .21 you do need different gears outside from what is available.

But there is a .21 and a .26 smallblock called Picco P2-max
I was thinking a .1/8 on road engine in a smaller chassis would be optimal. I already have an os.18tz
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Originally Posted by illmatic94
yeah i remember the fusion correct?
Thats right ... it was the Fusion. I had forgotten what it was called!

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Do not forget the CEN CTR 5.0
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Old 07-05-2015, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Roelof
Do not forget the CEN CTR 5.0
Never saw one? I remember the one that had the green engine that did 73 mph like 20yrs ago lol.
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Anyone drop one in an X-ray nt1?
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Ive been stuffing 21s into 1/10 sedans since the early 2000s and now stuffing bigger motors into them. We've done 28, 30 and 32s. Its awesome for speed runs but useless on any track. The torque of the bigger motor will overpower any track and you'll be all over the place. As ROELOF said, a 12, 15 or 18 will yield the same RPM which is good for track since its low torque. I personally do speed runs and benefit from the RPM/torque combination that the 21s and larger supply which no small block can give me. But here's the trick into finding a car do accomplish this and if you look at the 2 RTR cars mentioned, youll see what Im talking about. The bigblock can be stuffed into just about any car as long as the belt that drives the front wheels does not run on the left side of the chassis. Like mostly all track proven sedans do. On the Fusion, the belt runs down the center, on the CEN, its on the right and on the cars we've done, the RS4-2 is on the right as well as the 4tec.

RB28 powered 4tec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW4VYnSchkM

LRP30 powered 4tec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGi7oAYwoN0

Rossi21 powered HPI Racer2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd9YuPDcVhQ
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Never thought of it that way. I guess there's a reason the nt1 is only a race kit. I only figured that the .21 that go in the 1/8 inroad cars put in a smaller kit would be a perfect set up
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Originally Posted by Gt100
Ive been stuffing 21s into 1/10 sedans since the early 2000s and now stuffing bigger motors into them. We've done 28, 30 and 32s. Its awesome for speed runs but useless on any track. The torque of the bigger motor will overpower any track and you'll be all over the place. As ROELOF said, a 12, 15 or 18 will yield the same RPM which is good for track since its low torque. I personally do speed runs and benefit from the RPM/torque combination that the 21s and larger supply which no small block can give me. But here's the trick into finding a car do accomplish this and if you look at the 2 RTR cars mentioned, youll see what Im talking about. The bigblock can be stuffed into just about any car as long as the belt that drives the front wheels does not run on the left side of the chassis. Like mostly all track proven sedans do. On the Fusion, the belt runs down the center, on the CEN, its on the right and on the cars we've done, the RS4-2 is on the right as well as the 4tec.

RB28 powered 4tec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW4VYnSchkM

LRP30 powered 4tec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGi7oAYwoN0

Rossi21 powered HPI Racer2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd9YuPDcVhQ
Those videos are interesting. Where did you guys get those crazy gears also do they still make parts for the rs4?
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Fitted a .21 from a HPI savage into a RS4-3 years ago, really easy but pointless.
Screwed up handling, didn't go much better and was very thirsty so the little touring car tank of fuel didn't last long.
Was a fun experiment anyway.
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