Mugen MTX-3
10-03-2004, 09:22 PM
Re: gear ratio?
Originally posted by gentleman81
i am running stock gearing in my mtx 3 which is 47/43 to 16/20 and i geuss these are 1.0 gears. i saw a guy at the track who had a bad a$$ motor but also had the 0.8 gears and it screamed!!
it seems as if my car goes though the gears a little slow for me, i race a technical track with at least one good long strecth, what are some suggestions for gearing. i asked the guy but of course i didnt remember it or right it down (in front of him
)
i am running stock gearing in my mtx 3 which is 47/43 to 16/20 and i geuss these are 1.0 gears. i saw a guy at the track who had a bad a$$ motor but also had the 0.8 gears and it screamed!!
it seems as if my car goes though the gears a little slow for me, i race a technical track with at least one good long strecth, what are some suggestions for gearing. i asked the guy but of course i didnt remember it or right it down (in front of him
)
if i were to get the 0.8 gears , will i be getting my lap time half a second faster per lap...??
if that is the case , it is worthed for sure gettin the 0.8 gears...
10-04-2004, 06:48 AM
Re: 16/19 conversion
Originally posted by xtreme888
Hi Guys,
I am running the 16/19 conversion with a metal 16 kawahara rear side pully and belt......the problem is that the 16 pully and belt are worn away very quick....belt replacement after about 4 meeting and pully about 8 meeting. Is there any plastic gear out there a can replace the metal pully with coz i noticed that the 19 plastic pully with very little wear !!! Hence was thinking if i replace the metal one the belt would last longer. Is there any other similar conversion that i can use to make the front tyres wear more quicker like the 16/19 conversion?
Hi Guys,
I am running the 16/19 conversion with a metal 16 kawahara rear side pully and belt......the problem is that the 16 pully and belt are worn away very quick....belt replacement after about 4 meeting and pully about 8 meeting. Is there any plastic gear out there a can replace the metal pully with coz i noticed that the 19 plastic pully with very little wear !!! Hence was thinking if i replace the metal one the belt would last longer. Is there any other similar conversion that i can use to make the front tyres wear more quicker like the 16/19 conversion?
Just get the Mugen pulley set as sugested and use the 16T that's in there. You might try soaking the side belt in WD-40 over a couple of days. This helps soften it up and all should be good.
As a side note, we use the 3Racing 16T alloy pulley - 'cos it was available quickly and locally at the time. I'm not a big fan of 3Racing stuff but this pulley is holding up just fine. When it gets worn, we'll just swap to the Mugen plastic one.
10-04-2004, 06:52 AM
Re: Re: gear ratio?
Originally posted by rcabj
if i were to get the 0.8 gears , will i be getting my lap time half a second faster per lap...??
if that is the case , it is worthed for sure gettin the 0.8 gears...
if i were to get the 0.8 gears , will i be getting my lap time half a second faster per lap...??
if that is the case , it is worthed for sure gettin the 0.8 gears...
10-04-2004, 06:57 AM
While on the subject of gears, does anyone know of a 19T first gear (0.8M)?
I believe Kawahara make one but thought there might be an easier alternative - maybe from another make of car.
I believe Kawahara make one but thought there might be an easier alternative - maybe from another make of car.
10-04-2004, 07:08 AM
Re: Re: Re: gear ratio?
Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
Sorry, the 0.8M gears are fine but there's no half second in it.
Sorry, the 0.8M gears are fine but there's no half second in it.
then , how about quarter of a second???
10-04-2004, 07:26 AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: gear ratio?
Originally posted by rcabj
then , how about quarter of a second???
then , how about quarter of a second???
Worth having all the same.
10-04-2004, 07:50 AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gear ratio?
Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
Don't think so . . . . maybe about 0.001 sec.
Worth having all the same.
Don't think so . . . . maybe about 0.001 sec.
Worth having all the same.
seriously ... 
for example same car, same setup, same driver only 100 of a second difference? 
10-04-2004, 07:58 AM
Tr is just playing games.
Dont listen to him, he is going into an overdue retirement
Dont listen to him, he is going into an overdue retirement
10-04-2004, 07:58 AM
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$375
Spare parts which are all good spares in the bags (gears, belts, thurst bearing, tires, etc.)
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Ofna Starter Box(again brand new with 2 300 viper packs):
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Mugen X12 Engine & Mugen Pipe
$325
Paypal accepted, all these items donot include shipping
MTX3 Pro Spec Car Kit:
The car in the box with the kuwahara rear brace, racing dynamics receiver battery , brand new set of twister tires never touched the ground.
http://www.pbase.com/evanb/image/34532059
$375
Spare parts which are all good spares in the bags (gears, belts, thurst bearing, tires, etc.)
http://www.pbase.com/evanb/image/34532062
$75
Ofna Starter Box(again brand new with 2 300 viper packs):
http://www.pbase.com/evanb/image/34532055
$50
Mazda 6 Custom Painted Body(custom never mounted)
http://www.pbase.com/evanb/image/34532098
$75
Mugen X12 Engine & Mugen Pipe
$325
Paypal accepted, all these items donot include shipping
10-04-2004, 07:59 AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gear ratio?
Originally posted by rcabj
seriously ... for example same car, same setup, same driver only 100 of a second difference?
seriously ... for example same car, same setup, same driver only 100 of a second difference?
For instance, you'd have more chance of finding some time by experimenting with clutch set-up.
10-04-2004, 08:15 AM
rcabj,
Don't listen to Picard. The last time I saw him, he was up to his ankles in broken dogbones and shock shafts.
Don't listen to Picard. The last time I saw him, he was up to his ankles in broken dogbones and shock shafts.
10-04-2004, 08:18 AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gear ratio?
Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
OK, seriously then. The 0.8M gears are more efficient but I wouldn't be expecting to find anything difinative and measureable in lap times.
For instance, you'd have more chance of finding some time by experimenting with clutch set-up.
OK, seriously then. The 0.8M gears are more efficient but I wouldn't be expecting to find anything difinative and measureable in lap times.
For instance, you'd have more chance of finding some time by experimenting with clutch set-up.
considering my motor is rather "old" and not having a suitable pipe , and also the 'gear' thing.... i imply that i could have improve
my time and lessen the difference of lap time from the top guys when i rectify the things i mention above...do u agree...
(..i also assume the top guys r havin perfect setup of everything compared to me...)
10-04-2004, 08:24 AM
If you are a novice driver the best thing you can do is practice turning laps at the track and get your lines and braking points spot on...this will give you the best effect on lap times.
Once you are comfortable with the track start experimenting with the setup
Once you are comfortable with the track start experimenting with the setup
10-04-2004, 08:33 AM
Yep, Picard is right. There just isn't anything significant in the gears.
Spend money on tyres and time at the track - there is no escaping this.
I was saying to Picard yesterday that I counted some empty tyre boxes I'd been keeping for a while, just for fun. There were 86 boxes and that's not all of them.
Spend money on tyres and time at the track - there is no escaping this.
I was saying to Picard yesterday that I counted some empty tyre boxes I'd been keeping for a while, just for fun. There were 86 boxes and that's not all of them.
10-04-2004, 08:53 AM
thanks for the tips guys....