After going through 3 starterboxes, I've fianally settled on the Ofna 1/10th and 1/8th #10258 box($75.00), it has the big motor and and a 12 volt I picked up at Batteries Plus for $15.00, and it will start anything.
I [I]AM [/I]the Driver !
Murnan Modified Motors
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Auto Racing, Mountain climbing, and Bull fighting are the only true sports, all the rest are just games.