Brushless Serpent 966
#46
If you really looks thru all my comments...at the end, I am still waiting to see the "TRACK" performance of this vehicles. I DID NOT mention anything NEGATIVE from what Serpent did....I owns over 12 serpent thruout the last 20 years of RC racing and I don't know why I am still buying Serpent. But I am disappointed to seeing you saying I am bad mouthing SERPENT when I was clearly "concerning" about the 966e electronics specification.
I did not intend to say you are bad mouthing anyone. I have just felt that you're comments generally look at the impossibles in stead of the possibles.
If I have offended you I apologise. Let's get this thread back to what is usefull.
Julius
#47
Batteries are only part of the problem, and finding an easier quick change system. Getting a reliable speed control that can handle the huge power draw on full throttle acceleration is a major problem. It will have to be a ramp up power draw. A two speed transmission will ease some of this power draw. The other thing is weight balance and c/g. The batteries are incredibly heavy and the car will have much more weight in the front of the car. I don't see these cars really being as competitive handling wise w/o a suspension redesign.
#48
Tech Champion
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My apologies. I have overstepped the line there...
I did not intend to say you are bad mouthing anyone. I have just felt that you're comments generally look at the impossibles in stead of the possibles.
If I have offended you I apologise. Let's get this thread back to what is usefull.
Julius
I did not intend to say you are bad mouthing anyone. I have just felt that you're comments generally look at the impossibles in stead of the possibles.
If I have offended you I apologise. Let's get this thread back to what is usefull.
Julius
I have mentioned before...SERPENT did a lots of the "FIRST" in the market, including this 1/8th production on road...instead of all of us "homemade conversion"...I am 110% happy about Serpent did step in and tell us there is a market or interest in this 1/8th E-conversion even though all the ppl I have talk to rather hear the NITRO instead of seeing the lipo/bl version.
I know you from a long time thru the Serpent thread and know you are a well represent person from SERPENT....now the car 966-e is here, my only interest are the specification that you guys are using to POWER this thing. The car itself need not require any explaination...966 must be a great car already. I want to see what mah/c-rating of those 4S lipo that you guys are planning to use..? Then the speedo spec....the motor Kv, then a video of the 966-e running along side a 966 (even it might be slower then the nitro one)...then the run time. Will that make 5 minutes..? Motor temp after 5 minutes..?
Those are the target you guys can write down and post it on the site to back up the 966-e project.
#49
Tech Champion
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Batteries are only part of the problem, and finding an easier quick change system. Getting a reliable speed control that can handle the huge power draw on full throttle acceleration is a major problem. It will have to be a ramp up power draw. A two speed transmission will ease some of this power draw. The other thing is weight balance and c/g. The batteries are incredibly heavy and the car will have much more weight in the front of the car. I don't see these cars really being as competitive handling wise w/o a suspension redesign.
The amp draw is indeed a big problem for the speedo...using 2-speed might help by a little, but there are test saying the shifting actually draw more amps and the straight line performace is not as good. I have seen 1/8th conversion with 2-speed go very slow on 1st gear, then it will slow down while it shift, and jump off the line after shifting...I am not sure that require the shfiting adjustment or that is the electric motor thingy, but they don't look good at all.........someone said they tried to make the shift point alot eariler and it as quite OK, but I have not seen video of that to back that up....
1 step at a time I think....let them figure out what motor, speedo and lipo will get this 966E has a good 6 minutes FAST run (not kinda move around run) then we can start thinking about getting to 15 minutes run by changing lipo.
#50
Tech Regular
There is a lot of talk on this forum about people testing e-cars. And it is said that 6S is the way to go with about 2000 kv or so motor and high geared.
How than is it possible that Serpent goes the opposite way?
That is 4S and 2800 kv motor.
#51
Tech Champion
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Our first S966e was shipped to us this week and we will start testing next week. We'll post some info on what we find and if you happen to live in Florida you'll get to see it run in person at the Kissimmee and/or Homestead track.
Keep you posted.
Joaquin
Serpent America
Keep you posted.
Joaquin
Serpent America
I still believe...6S with lower turn motor (2000kv) might have a chance for 5-6 minutes hard running.
#52
Tech Regular
if i am not mistaken they have been running one here in Houston, texas during the 200mm pre-worlds. tomorrow is the last day. when i looked at it, they had a novak hv 6.5 system in it and single speed. they said it was weak in the straight. anyways i think a dude by the screen name john stranahan had been helping them some. a local to the gulf coast raceway. check the thread for that track in the texas forum.