52LikesEuropean 2wd 1/8th pan car on-road Classic class
10-29-2009, 03:45 PM
#62
I will say this much. I do think GT is ultimately doomed. Not right now. Right now it seems like a great class. It will be doomed the day someone like Serpent or Mugen decides to build a full blown race car just for the class instead of a revamped buggy. Then it will be just as expensive, demanding and difficult as 1/8th so why bother.
Boy that sure is a nice track
10-29-2009, 03:47 PM
#63
Looks like a rally car. How long before someone imports one to the states for GT use?
10-29-2009, 03:55 PM
#65
Amber for low light/night.
Grey or bronze tint for bright sun light.
Grey or bronze tint for bright sun light.
10-29-2009, 04:01 PM
#67
I will say this much. I do think GT is ultimately doomed. Not right now. Right now it seems like a great class. It will be doomed the day someone like Serpent or Mugen decides to build a full blown race car just for the class instead of a revamped buggy. Then it will be just as expensive, demanding and difficult as 1/8th so why bother.
10-29-2009, 04:11 PM
#69
10-29-2009, 04:22 PM
#70
Exactly speedy. This is how any new class goes. It's great in the beginning because the cars are cheap and simple, you don't need big HP because the handling and driving isn't quite world class yet and noobs can be competitive because everyone is a noob. But as soon as the class gets enough participation to attract the big dog manufacturers, you will see them make cars for the class and have drivers like Swauger, Burch an Paolo to deal with. Not quite as much fun for the noob anymore. Just look at 1/10th TC. Used to be noobs running HPI's all blinged out and having a blast, now it's all about worlds level competition and most of those HPI guys are gone or running Slashes instead.
So what does this mean for 2wd pan cars? Well, 1/12th scale has been around from the start and shows no sign of dying. Why? Cheap, simple, low maintenance racing fun with stable rules that don't allow any more technical complexity to creep in. Ten year old cars are still capable of winning major races. GT has all that except for the prohibitions on further tech. So I see 2wd pan cars as a potentially better option for an easy entry level nitro class. Right now GT may be just as good and appealing for that purpose but that will most likely change eventually.
So what does this mean for 2wd pan cars? Well, 1/12th scale has been around from the start and shows no sign of dying. Why? Cheap, simple, low maintenance racing fun with stable rules that don't allow any more technical complexity to creep in. Ten year old cars are still capable of winning major races. GT has all that except for the prohibitions on further tech. So I see 2wd pan cars as a potentially better option for an easy entry level nitro class. Right now GT may be just as good and appealing for that purpose but that will most likely change eventually.
10-29-2009, 04:23 PM
#71
10-29-2009, 04:28 PM
#72
Search Rally Game been out for years overseas and surprisingly not that popular...go figure...however redrc has some neat info.
http://www.redrc.net/2008/12/bmt-081...is/#more-12959
Same thing happened in offroad...whatever happened to that monster truck class...oh yeah it is called truggy...full out 1/8 car with bigger tires and more aero body.
Amber visor is the way to go.
http://www.redrc.net/2008/12/bmt-081...is/#more-12959
Same thing happened in offroad...whatever happened to that monster truck class...oh yeah it is called truggy...full out 1/8 car with bigger tires and more aero body.
Amber visor is the way to go.
10-29-2009, 04:32 PM
#73
Exactly speedy. This is how any new class goes. It's great in the beginning because the cars are cheap and simple, you don't need big HP because the handling and driving isn't quite world class yet and noobs can be competitive because everyone is a noob. But as soon as the class gets enough participation to attract the big dog manufacturers, you will see them make cars for the class and have drivers like Swauger, Burch an Paolo to deal with. Not quite as much fun for the noob anymore. Just look at 1/10th TC. Used to be noobs running HPI's all blinged out and having a blast, now it's all about worlds level competition and most of those HPI guys are gone or running Slashes instead.
So what does this mean for 2wd pan cars? Well, 1/12th scale has been around from the start and shows no sign of dying. Why? Cheap, simple, low maintenance racing fun with stable rules that don't allow any more technical complexity to creep in. Ten year old cars are still capable of winning major races. GT has all that except for the prohibitions on further tech. So I see 2wd pan cars as a potentially better option for an easy entry level nitro class. Right now GT may be just as good and appealing for that purpose but that will most likely change eventually.
So what does this mean for 2wd pan cars? Well, 1/12th scale has been around from the start and shows no sign of dying. Why? Cheap, simple, low maintenance racing fun with stable rules that don't allow any more technical complexity to creep in. Ten year old cars are still capable of winning major races. GT has all that except for the prohibitions on further tech. So I see 2wd pan cars as a potentially better option for an easy entry level nitro class. Right now GT may be just as good and appealing for that purpose but that will most likely change eventually.
10-29-2009, 04:35 PM
#74
Actually…. Belt-Drive “Rally-Game” type cars have been around for a while, not new to us GT racers at all.
They’re very cool cars that deserve their own category. More like a single speed 1/8 scale with big rubber tires, as GT racing grows they’ll be another class in “shaft drive” GT “rubber tire racing events.
What ever "Rally-Game" racers have done & do, has nothing the do with North American style GT racing.
"Pro" drivers have to race with the same stuff as us "newbies" do, maybe we'll see how good they really are too.
But............ we should really move this to the GT thread if you want to learn more about GT racing, for respect for the 1/8 Pan-Car racers.
If the Pan-Car" class does grow, I might want to race in it too and if by chance it wishes to try racing with rubber tires; Ipanema might help support it too.
They’re very cool cars that deserve their own category. More like a single speed 1/8 scale with big rubber tires, as GT racing grows they’ll be another class in “shaft drive” GT “rubber tire racing events.
What ever "Rally-Game" racers have done & do, has nothing the do with North American style GT racing.
"Pro" drivers have to race with the same stuff as us "newbies" do, maybe we'll see how good they really are too.
But............ we should really move this to the GT thread if you want to learn more about GT racing, for respect for the 1/8 Pan-Car racers.
If the Pan-Car" class does grow, I might want to race in it too and if by chance it wishes to try racing with rubber tires; Ipanema might help support it too.
10-29-2009, 04:47 PM
#75
Exactly speedy. This is how any new class goes. It's great in the beginning because the cars are cheap and simple, you don't need big HP because the handling and driving isn't quite world class yet and noobs can be competitive because everyone is a noob. But as soon as the class gets enough participation to attract the big dog manufacturers, you will see them make cars for the class and have drivers like Swauger, Burch an Paolo to deal with. Not quite as much fun for the noob anymore. Just look at 1/10th TC. Used to be noobs running HPI's all blinged out and having a blast, now it's all about worlds level competition.
So what does this mean for 2wd pan cars? Well, 1/12th scale has been around from the start and shows no sign of dying. Why? Cheap, simple, low maintenance racing fun with stable rules that don't allow any more technical complexity to creep in. Ten year old cars are still capable of winning major races. GT has all that except for the prohibitions on further tech. So I see 2wd pan cars as a potentially better option for an easy entry level nitro class. Right now GT may be just as good and appealing for that purpose but that will most likely change eventually.
So what does this mean for 2wd pan cars? Well, 1/12th scale has been around from the start and shows no sign of dying. Why? Cheap, simple, low maintenance racing fun with stable rules that don't allow any more technical complexity to creep in. Ten year old cars are still capable of winning major races. GT has all that except for the prohibitions on further tech. So I see 2wd pan cars as a potentially better option for an easy entry level nitro class. Right now GT may be just as good and appealing for that purpose but that will most likely change eventually.
is affiliated with. As to this thread and its 1/12 scale pan cars I say COOL and the more the better as we should all say about any class if we run it or not especially if we expect this sport to grow during these hard times. As to the opinion of GT being entry level that’s a different discussion and I understand why that is often quoted but it’s really not as accurate as it sounds, your chosen words of entry level can make this GT class sound unattractive and when at the track the people I see that no nothing of the sport love the other faster cars but always and I mean always talk to the GT people the more because of its realistic look and size. I don’t see this class leaving any time soon but you is entitled to your opinion.