Originally Posted by aarcobra
WHere have you been???? Dick in Kansas needs your address to get your bodies to you!!! We have both tried to get in touch with you.
Please let me know.
PS: Is there a parts' list for the Edam on line? I'm thinking of making a car!! you and Matt are having too much fun!!!
I've been in two modes lately, either busy as hell or laid up recovering from whatever malady has beset me...like today for instance. Oh well. Fire me another email and I'll send you an address.
Buying parts may not be such a great idea. The problem is, depending on how much you need, it may be more economical to buy an entire kit vs. just the parts. For example, the most expensive pieces are the axle shafts and quick release levers. This is probably because these pieces never wear out and they are the most solid of the pieces.
I used a Kyosho GT driveline because thru Ebay I can get those parts cheap. I used the forward and rear body mounts for a GT for the same reason, I think an entire body mounting kit is about 20 bucks fore and aft.
I'm using the Edam 3 shoe clutch, I just plan to remove a pinion depending on what gear for what track I need, but I can get those all day for about 20 bucks from the pinch out. Flywheel and everything...doesn't get much cheaper than that.
Provided I can run this sunday, I'll get a shakedown in and see just what the car does. I'm giving up some on weight obviously..lots of too thick aluminum which will have to be lightened, but until I wreck it a few times and see what the fragile pieces are, I'm not sure what to lighten.
Hubs, pins, bearings and so forth I did thru Edam and they don't cost much either. Ballpark I've got around 200 bucks in the thing not including radio gear and engine. I was nearly inclined to go the same route as Matt but Tom's GT proved to be indestructible as per the driveline, we're familiar with setup, and cost-wise it just made sense.
On another note, Edam is in the process of designing a pan car along the lines of a Motonica build (rear belt setup,) the remainder of the rear end with no suspension but based off their current 4wd RTR (much thicker chassis and the three shoe clutch.) I may pass along my idea for the front end setup to them and ask that they incorporate that into their build (durability and cost) but the various options are:
1. Buy an existing kit. I hear Motonica may/may not be dropping the ball. As Rick pointed out, we need a kit that newbies can buy and go with, and I'm hoping for an Edam product, RTR that can be upgraded, but about 300 bucks including engine and cheapo radio gear, just need fuel and igniter. If they will do this, I will order some made, import them, and then hope we find buyers. Another advantage to that route is the upgrade kits for tweaking from a newbie setup to a pro setup.
2. Rebuild/refit vintage class with upgrades and sell those as kits. I plan to do that regardless, mostly because I'm an old Delta fan. Cost would be a tad higher per unit (ballpark of 500 per) but nearly indestructible.
3. Build our own. I am a crappy machinist but I did have fun building the thing...I like my build because it's not tethered to any manufacturer, lots of different parts could be used (Serpent, Mugen or Kyosho front end steering, Kyosho, Ofna or Serpent driveline) and leave it up to the racer as to what they want to use. If our design happens to work well, I plan to outsource the building of kits to a local machining company (people may appreciate slightly more accurate fit, holes drilled in the right places, etc.) and offer those for sale.
I'd encourage anyone to go whatever route suits their needs and wallet the best. As for me, whatever direction I go in, I want the most durable thing possible since newbies wreck a lot and it's hard enough keeping the discouraged newbie around when he's spending all his time wrenching, let alone the cost of replacement parts, especially when it's parts that should have been more durable to begin with. And as we all know, our 4wd builds are not newbie friendly....but I did actually get the thing built, so whether it does well or not, I feel pretty good about it!