Announcement: ROAR ON ROAD FUEL NATIONALS - 8TH RACERS OF TOLEDO
06-11-2009, 09:46 AM
#241
Tommy .... how can you agree with something that is not correct? If your going to brow beat us for not "following rules" at least have the rule correct.
10.2. The maximum number of event entries will be limited as follows:10.2.1. Electric On Road 25 qualifying heats
10.2.2. Electric Off Road 35 qualifying heats
10.2.3. Electric Oval 35 qualifying heats
10.2.4. Fuel Off Road 25 qualifying heats
10.2.5. Fuel On Road 20 qualifying heats
10.2.6. 1/5th Scale 14 qualifying heats
This was taken directly from the '09 ROAR RMT Nationals Guidelines which I downloaded from the ROAR website, where anyone can download it and read it.
10.2. The maximum number of event entries will be limited as follows:10.2.1. Electric On Road 25 qualifying heats
10.2.2. Electric Off Road 35 qualifying heats
10.2.3. Electric Oval 35 qualifying heats
10.2.4. Fuel Off Road 25 qualifying heats
10.2.5. Fuel On Road 20 qualifying heats
10.2.6. 1/5th Scale 14 qualifying heats
This was taken directly from the '09 ROAR RMT Nationals Guidelines which I downloaded from the ROAR website, where anyone can download it and read it.
06-11-2009, 09:49 AM
#242
Tech Elite
Thread Starter
Um.. Your not Tommy.. LOL
And, he bolded the wrong line..
10.2. The maximum number of event entries will be limited as follows:
10.2.1. Electric On Road 25 qualifying heats
10.2.2. Electric Off Road 35 qualifying heats
10.2.3. Electric Oval 35 qualifying heats
10.2.4. Fuel Off Road 25 qualifying heats
10.2.5. Fuel On Road 20 qualifying heats
10.2.6. 1/5th Scale 14 qualifying heats
Although, I have found that to be rather vague, don't you? Max of 20 qualifying heats really depends on the facility and their drivers stand, track size and of course, abiltity for evening and night time racing.
06-11-2009, 09:50 AM
#243
Yes. I did.
Unfortunately, NONE of this could be controlled by Me or any member of ROAR management. Other situations pulled the strings and ROAR was forced and is forced to roll with the punches.
So.. with that said.... next year is the SAME situation guys.... please, plan ahead.
Unfortunately, NONE of this could be controlled by Me or any member of ROAR management. Other situations pulled the strings and ROAR was forced and is forced to roll with the punches.
So.. with that said.... next year is the SAME situation guys.... please, plan ahead.
06-11-2009, 09:51 AM
#244
Why did ROAR wait so late 2 put out the entry form???? I've been waiting since March, now I might not be able 2 get in!!! I'm really not happy about that! Won't make a big deal about it here, but I am REALLY PISSED! 
06-11-2009, 09:51 AM
#245
06-11-2009, 09:53 AM
#246
Tech Elite
Thread Starter
another self edit.
06-11-2009, 10:02 AM
#248
Just a few thoughts.
All the 1/8th nats I have attended (Homestead, Texas, 301) have come very close to selling out. Not complete sell-outs but close. Sedan seems to be the same way. So combining two classes that nearly sell out every year will certainly guarantee a sell-out and also guarantee many people won't get to race. Especially when the race is at a real hot-bed of onroad like Toledo. Local racers alone could come close to selling it out.
I myself was hoping to run this race but didn't know if I could afford it. People at the classic talked me into finding a way to go but now I can't anyway. No big deal, I'll just save the money for the I95 shootout or maybe the winternats.
With next year's 1/8th nats being a qualifier for a US worlds I would STRONGLY suggest that it be a stand alone event. If it's at a good location like Ohio, Florida, 301, etc it will sell very well. If it's in the middle of no where in a hot state in August you might only get 80 entries but anything better than that and you will get 100 minimum.
Just my $.02
All the 1/8th nats I have attended (Homestead, Texas, 301) have come very close to selling out. Not complete sell-outs but close. Sedan seems to be the same way. So combining two classes that nearly sell out every year will certainly guarantee a sell-out and also guarantee many people won't get to race. Especially when the race is at a real hot-bed of onroad like Toledo. Local racers alone could come close to selling it out.
I myself was hoping to run this race but didn't know if I could afford it. People at the classic talked me into finding a way to go but now I can't anyway. No big deal, I'll just save the money for the I95 shootout or maybe the winternats.
With next year's 1/8th nats being a qualifier for a US worlds I would STRONGLY suggest that it be a stand alone event. If it's at a good location like Ohio, Florida, 301, etc it will sell very well. If it's in the middle of no where in a hot state in August you might only get 80 entries but anything better than that and you will get 100 minimum.
Just my $.02
06-11-2009, 10:03 AM
#249
06-11-2009, 10:07 AM
#250
2006 had a good turnout, and it was a combined event in 2005.
http://www.roarracing.org/results/nats/
06-11-2009, 10:11 AM
#251
The last 2 years, the sedan nats have NOT done well.
2006 had a good turnout, and it was a combined event in 2005.
http://www.roarracing.org/results/nats/
2006 had a good turnout, and it was a combined event in 2005.
http://www.roarracing.org/results/nats/
06-11-2009, 10:14 AM
#252
Tech Adept
I'm not sure why everyone is so upset but, if you are, be upset with yourself.
The rules state that entries will begin no sooner than ninety days before the event. This should not be a surprise to anyone who wants to enter a Nationals event. If it is, perhaps you should spend more time reading the ROAR web site.
For those that were at the Capitol Classic, it seems there were plenty of people in attendance at that event that entered the Nats without issue. To name a few, Mike Swauger, Ralph Burch, Scott Kimbrow... and the list goes on. How did they get in? Maybe they had a laptop or used the hotel's computer or had a loved one sign them up. Doesn't matter, they planned ahead and got in.
As far as ROAR working with the racers, I believe they have done that. How about the racers work with ROAR.
If you're worried about not being able to qualify for the Worlds in Texas next year, relax, there will be opportunity to resume' into the race once the qualified racers have their shot to sign up - including all the non-ROAR entries.
If you're worried about not being able to race at the great facility in Toledo, relax, attend the GLC.
The rules state that entries will begin no sooner than ninety days before the event. This should not be a surprise to anyone who wants to enter a Nationals event. If it is, perhaps you should spend more time reading the ROAR web site.
For those that were at the Capitol Classic, it seems there were plenty of people in attendance at that event that entered the Nats without issue. To name a few, Mike Swauger, Ralph Burch, Scott Kimbrow... and the list goes on. How did they get in? Maybe they had a laptop or used the hotel's computer or had a loved one sign them up. Doesn't matter, they planned ahead and got in.
As far as ROAR working with the racers, I believe they have done that. How about the racers work with ROAR.
If you're worried about not being able to qualify for the Worlds in Texas next year, relax, there will be opportunity to resume' into the race once the qualified racers have their shot to sign up - including all the non-ROAR entries.
If you're worried about not being able to race at the great facility in Toledo, relax, attend the GLC.
06-11-2009, 10:25 AM
#253
Tech Adept
Sorry, double post.
Last edited by rjr; 06-11-2009 at 10:33 AM. Reason: Double post
06-11-2009, 10:41 AM
#254
Tech Master
The last 2 years, the sedan nats have NOT done well.
2006 had a good turnout, and it was a combined event in 2005.
http://www.roarracing.org/results/nats/
2006 had a good turnout, and it was a combined event in 2005.
http://www.roarracing.org/results/nats/
It would seem, the most attended events, happen alot earlier in the year.
It would seem roar makes it's decisions, on what is easist on them, and not what people who pay membership want. I thought Mike Quellar was gone.
06-11-2009, 10:43 AM
#255
Tech Elite
Thread Starter
Statistics from ROAR achives:
1997 - combined event
124 entries
1998 - combined event
194 entries
1999 - combined event
164 entries
2000 - combined event
179 entries
2001 - combined event
160 entries
2002 - split up
Sedan - 138
8th - 114
Total 252
2003 - split
Sedan - 150
8th - 83
Total 233
2004 - split
Sedan 146
8th 162
Total 308
2005 split
Sedan 92
8th 156
Total 248
2006 split
Sedan 155
8th 144
Total 299
2007 split
Sedan 92
8th 125
Total 217
2008 split
Sedan 74
8th 150
Total 224
Just wanting to provide facts if entry numbers are going to be in the discussion.
1997 - combined event
124 entries
1998 - combined event
194 entries
1999 - combined event
164 entries
2000 - combined event
179 entries
2001 - combined event
160 entries
2002 - split up
Sedan - 138
8th - 114
Total 252
2003 - split
Sedan - 150
8th - 83
Total 233
2004 - split
Sedan 146
8th 162
Total 308
2005 split
Sedan 92
8th 156
Total 248
2006 split
Sedan 155
8th 144
Total 299
2007 split
Sedan 92
8th 125
Total 217
2008 split
Sedan 74
8th 150
Total 224
Just wanting to provide facts if entry numbers are going to be in the discussion.