Serpent 710
Originally Posted by jag
I installed the body posts on the front side of the shock tower but I took an old set of posts and cut the post off the base and used the base as a spacer to move the post further forward. I saw this on either Paolo's or Scotty's car... maybe both.
that's why it's causing the problem.
Originally Posted by jag
I installed the body posts on the front side of the shock tower but I took an old set of posts and cut the post off the base and used the base as a spacer to move the post further forward. I saw this on either Paolo's or Scotty's car... maybe both.
pro axles
Hi i've just got my 710 going, i've read about pro axles being fitted to cars, how are they different to the standard axles in the kit & where can i purchase them.
Regards Paul
Regards Paul
They are lightened versions of the normal wheelaxles. They are a direct replacement.
http://www.mytsn.com/products/desc.asp?prid=262
I'd suggest running the car with the stock axles first. If you want to try something different I'd suggest using these: http://www.mytsn.com/products/desc.asp?prid=3405
Also a direct fit for front and rear of the 710.
http://www.mytsn.com/products/desc.asp?prid=262
I'd suggest running the car with the stock axles first. If you want to try something different I'd suggest using these: http://www.mytsn.com/products/desc.asp?prid=3405
Also a direct fit for front and rear of the 710.
Tech Rookie
Problem with using brass cone for Mega zx12...
Hi guys...
(first post, yiihaa)
I bought a brand new Mega zx12 engine. When I started to fit the centax, I realised that the crankshaft is only 6mm, making the 7mm brass cone supplied with the 710 kit useless...
The zx12 is supplied with a steel cone approx 0,5mm "longer" than the brass one in the s710 kit. Is it possible to use the steel one without the 0,5 shim or is there a 6mm brass cone available?? (all info I can find is "use the cone supplied in 710 kit", but what if it doesn't fit???)
Anybody with experience fitting the zx12 in a 710??
Feels kinda strange that the Mega doesn't fit the 710, they are produced by the same company after all...
Hope you guys can give me some advice.
(first post, yiihaa)
I bought a brand new Mega zx12 engine. When I started to fit the centax, I realised that the crankshaft is only 6mm, making the 7mm brass cone supplied with the 710 kit useless...
The zx12 is supplied with a steel cone approx 0,5mm "longer" than the brass one in the s710 kit. Is it possible to use the steel one without the 0,5 shim or is there a 6mm brass cone available?? (all info I can find is "use the cone supplied in 710 kit", but what if it doesn't fit???)
Anybody with experience fitting the zx12 in a 710??
Feels kinda strange that the Mega doesn't fit the 710, they are produced by the same company after all...
Hope you guys can give me some advice.
Originally Posted by MartinG
Hi guys...
(first post, yiihaa)
I bought a brand new Mega zx12 engine. When I started to fit the centax, I realised that the crankshaft is only 6mm, making the 7mm brass cone supplied with the 710 kit useless...
The zx12 is supplied with a steel cone approx 0,5mm "longer" than the brass one in the s710 kit. Is it possible to use the steel one without the 0,5 shim or is there a 6mm brass cone available?? (all info I can find is "use the cone supplied in 710 kit", but what if it doesn't fit???)
Anybody with experience fitting the zx12 in a 710??
Feels kinda strange that the Mega doesn't fit the 710, they are produced by the same company after all...
Hope you guys can give me some advice.
(first post, yiihaa)
I bought a brand new Mega zx12 engine. When I started to fit the centax, I realised that the crankshaft is only 6mm, making the 7mm brass cone supplied with the 710 kit useless...
The zx12 is supplied with a steel cone approx 0,5mm "longer" than the brass one in the s710 kit. Is it possible to use the steel one without the 0,5 shim or is there a 6mm brass cone available?? (all info I can find is "use the cone supplied in 710 kit", but what if it doesn't fit???)
Anybody with experience fitting the zx12 in a 710??
Feels kinda strange that the Mega doesn't fit the 710, they are produced by the same company after all...
Hope you guys can give me some advice.
Originally Posted by MartinG
Hi guys...
(first post, yiihaa)
I bought a brand new Mega zx12 engine. When I started to fit the centax, I realised that the crankshaft is only 6mm, making the 7mm brass cone supplied with the 710 kit useless...
The zx12 is supplied with a steel cone approx 0,5mm "longer" than the brass one in the s710 kit. Is it possible to use the steel one without the 0,5 shim or is there a 6mm brass cone available?? (all info I can find is "use the cone supplied in 710 kit", but what if it doesn't fit???)
Anybody with experience fitting the zx12 in a 710??
Feels kinda strange that the Mega doesn't fit the 710, they are produced by the same company after all...
Hope you guys can give me some advice.
(first post, yiihaa)
I bought a brand new Mega zx12 engine. When I started to fit the centax, I realised that the crankshaft is only 6mm, making the 7mm brass cone supplied with the 710 kit useless...
The zx12 is supplied with a steel cone approx 0,5mm "longer" than the brass one in the s710 kit. Is it possible to use the steel one without the 0,5 shim or is there a 6mm brass cone available?? (all info I can find is "use the cone supplied in 710 kit", but what if it doesn't fit???)
Anybody with experience fitting the zx12 in a 710??
Feels kinda strange that the Mega doesn't fit the 710, they are produced by the same company after all...
Hope you guys can give me some advice.
As Jag said, do use a slightly shorter screw to hold the clutch bell.
Tech Rookie
Originally Posted by Julius
I use the collet that comes with the engine. I do use a 0.5mm shim behind the flywheel as it keeps me from adding a 0.5mm shim on the thrust bearing side. Just use the 0.5 shim that comes with the clutch package.
As Jag said, do use a slightly shorter screw to hold the clutch bell.
As Jag said, do use a slightly shorter screw to hold the clutch bell.
I think I'll use the engine collet without the 0,5 shim as this gives the outer bearing (not the thrust b) a little more room on the crankshaft...
Aluminum side pulley
Guys,
I saw in one of Serpent's option catalogue/leaflet that the aluminum side pulley also comes in 22T and 23T (802172 and 802173 respectively)
I went to MyTSN but it's not listed in there...
Can someone kindly clarify?
As far as I know, there is only 21T (802171)
I saw in one of Serpent's option catalogue/leaflet that the aluminum side pulley also comes in 22T and 23T (802172 and 802173 respectively)
I went to MyTSN but it's not listed in there...
Can someone kindly clarify?
As far as I know, there is only 21T (802171)
Hi, has any one used in the centax III, the new Centax II / III spring 1.8 (10mm) 909520, and if this is the case can you explain how did it change the set up of the pre load spring in the centax.
Thank
Jose
Thank
Jose
Originally Posted by Darth Vader
Guys,
I saw in one of Serpent's option catalogue/leaflet that the aluminum side pulley also comes in 22T and 23T (802172 and 802173 respectively)
I went to MyTSN but it's not listed in there...
Can someone kindly clarify?
As far as I know, there is only 21T (802171)
I saw in one of Serpent's option catalogue/leaflet that the aluminum side pulley also comes in 22T and 23T (802172 and 802173 respectively)
I went to MyTSN but it's not listed in there...
Can someone kindly clarify?
As far as I know, there is only 21T (802171)
[QUOTE=rcpanama]Hi, has any one used in the centax III, the new Centax II / III spring 1.8 (10mm) 909520, and if this is the case can you explain how did it change the set up of the pre load spring in the centax.
Thank
Jose[
well the new spring is from what i know is longer to help with coil bind . thats why its longer. so when you use it you will have load on the spring from the top with the nut . so you will not have to turn it far down like the old one to get preload.
Thank
Jose[
well the new spring is from what i know is longer to help with coil bind . thats why its longer. so when you use it you will have load on the spring from the top with the nut . so you will not have to turn it far down like the old one to get preload.
Tech Rookie
Hello people
I have bought the serpent 710 ith the Centax III clutch. I have some guestions about assembeling the thing.
I have shimmed the clutchbell at 0.6\0.7 mm and then started to look at the endplay, with everything installed and clutchbell play set like above i want to shim the endplay. It say's in the manual "reduce the endplay to minimal with the use off shims right after the springnut", so i need to shim it so that the clutchbell has minimal movement on the crankshaft axel? I ask this because the clutchbell can move over 1mm on the shaft? Do i need to shim it so that the clutchbell has minimal movement? If yes, doesnt that affect the clutchbell setting off 0.6\0.7mm ??
Maybe a dumb question but i find it difficult to read exactly what the manual means with endplay (Me being dutch with a englisch manual can cause this)
Thanks for any advice on this!!
Ron
I have bought the serpent 710 ith the Centax III clutch. I have some guestions about assembeling the thing.
I have shimmed the clutchbell at 0.6\0.7 mm and then started to look at the endplay, with everything installed and clutchbell play set like above i want to shim the endplay. It say's in the manual "reduce the endplay to minimal with the use off shims right after the springnut", so i need to shim it so that the clutchbell has minimal movement on the crankshaft axel? I ask this because the clutchbell can move over 1mm on the shaft? Do i need to shim it so that the clutchbell has minimal movement? If yes, doesnt that affect the clutchbell setting off 0.6\0.7mm ??
Maybe a dumb question but i find it difficult to read exactly what the manual means with endplay (Me being dutch with a englisch manual can cause this)
Thanks for any advice on this!!
Ron
Originally Posted by justforfun
Hello people
I have bought the serpent 710 ith the Centax III clutch. I have some guestions about assembeling the thing.
I have shimmed the clutchbell at 0.6\0.7 mm and then started to look at the endplay, with everything installed and clutchbell play set like above i want to shim the endplay. It say's in the manual "reduce the endplay to minimal with the use off shims right after the springnut", so i need to shim it so that the clutchbell has minimal movement on the crankshaft axel? I ask this because the clutchbell can move over 1mm on the shaft? Do i need to shim it so that the clutchbell has minimal movement? If yes, doesnt that affect the clutchbell setting off 0.6\0.7mm ??
Maybe a dumb question but i find it difficult to read exactly what the manual means with endplay (Me being dutch with a englisch manual can cause this)
Thanks for any advice on this!!
Ron
I have bought the serpent 710 ith the Centax III clutch. I have some guestions about assembeling the thing.
I have shimmed the clutchbell at 0.6\0.7 mm and then started to look at the endplay, with everything installed and clutchbell play set like above i want to shim the endplay. It say's in the manual "reduce the endplay to minimal with the use off shims right after the springnut", so i need to shim it so that the clutchbell has minimal movement on the crankshaft axel? I ask this because the clutchbell can move over 1mm on the shaft? Do i need to shim it so that the clutchbell has minimal movement? If yes, doesnt that affect the clutchbell setting off 0.6\0.7mm ??
Maybe a dumb question but i find it difficult to read exactly what the manual means with endplay (Me being dutch with a englisch manual can cause this)
Thanks for any advice on this!!
Ron
Yes, place shims (the small ones) between the clutch nut and the inner bearing to reduce the end play to a minimum. This will not effect the clutch gap you previously set. I find that the more end play I have the more aggressive the clutch will engage. I suggest you read the article "How to build a centax III clutch" by Glenn Caully (if you have not already) on mytsn. It is a great article.
3D modell of 710
AFAIK it hasn't been posted here before, but some forum members already discoverd this site (some names in guestbook were familiar..).
But here is a site of a 710 driver that measured every single part of the 710 , put it in a very nice 3D modell, movies included.
Take a look !
http://home.12move.nl/bas.geurds/
But here is a site of a 710 driver that measured every single part of the 710 , put it in a very nice 3D modell, movies included.
Take a look !
http://home.12move.nl/bas.geurds/