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Old 03-25-2009, 02:24 PM   #331
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Thank you Nigel!
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Old 03-25-2009, 03:03 PM   #332
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If your 960 was free, then why do you say there was drag? Use your logic Michael!

And do you REALLY feel the difference in the coefficient of drag between the old braking system and the new?


Whatever, anyway... Mr. Cupps, your previous 960 08' in comparison to the new 966 share the same geometry, so to answer your question, start with your setup from last years biggie and work from there!

Many of us are running Green front and Pink/Red rears. All new springs btw. But start from there!
yes I do, simply put when you let off the brake's the pad's are spread apart

do to the spring, instead of the pad's and disc having to work themselves

apart, and when the car is in the corner the pad's will not push against the

disc, do to centrifugal forces yes my car was extremly free as you know,I

also used spring's to help keep the pad's apart however the new way is is

way better, the differance of cg on the old, was minor as the only

differance was that the pad's were rotated which would mean only a small

part was moved below the center line , now that might be logical , lol.
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Old 03-25-2009, 06:50 PM   #333
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Hmmm,
Maybe this will re-freshen your memory, please read:

Brake-system
The brake system ensures strong and efficient stopping power. The brake pads consist of two steel plates with the friction material pre-baked to the plates, and the brake disk is made from twin ventilated discs with an air-cooling alu centre.

The new braking system sits lower in the car to help LCG. The system is easily accessable for maintenance, due to its very open design.

The spring-loaded bar-pads slide on polished steel pins and are activated through the ball-raced brake cam, a large pin moves horizontally to activate the brakes. Due to the horizontal action of the pin, and not the twisting of the brake cam, all distortion in this area is removed and the brake pads are evenly pressed together. The brake cam is supported by ball-bearings for smooth, precise action.

This further adds to the precision and exceptional stopping power of the braking system.




Brake 966
Lower mounted brake-assembly for lower LCG. Spring-loaded brake-plates slides on polished steel shafts. Ready-to-run brake plate/pads assembly with new friction brake material. The ball-raced hard anodized brake-cam push the 2 larger pins which are seated in the aluminium bracket, against the brakeplat, to create very smooth and even pressure to the plate.


SOURCE: http://www.serpent.com/product/903009
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Thank you Nigel!
Good luck to you this weekend Jeremy, i hope all goes well ill PM you my PH# if you need help over the course of the weekend, but you know you can always reach Paolo if necessary!
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Thank you! I cant wait to run the new car! This week has taken forever to go buy!
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Hmmm,
Maybe this will re-freshen your memory, please read:

Brake-system
The brake system ensures strong and efficient stopping power. The brake pads consist of two steel plates with the friction material pre-baked to the plates, and the brake disk is made from twin ventilated discs with an air-cooling alu centre.

The new braking system sits lower in the car to help LCG. The system is easily accessable for maintenance, due to its very open design.

The spring-loaded bar-pads slide on polished steel pins and are activated through the ball-raced brake cam, a large pin moves horizontally to activate the brakes. Due to the horizontal action of the pin, and not the twisting of the brake cam, all distortion in this area is removed and the brake pads are evenly pressed together. The brake cam is supported by ball-bearings for smooth, precise action.

This further adds to the precision and exceptional stopping power of the braking system.




Brake 966
Lower mounted brake-assembly for lower LCG. Spring-loaded brake-plates slides on polished steel shafts. Ready-to-run brake plate/pads assembly with new friction brake material. The ball-raced hard anodized brake-cam push the 2 larger pins which are seated in the aluminium bracket, against the brakeplat, to create very smooth and even pressure to the plate.


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I have seen that too, So? what do you think made a bigger differance

on the car the , that the pad's were rotated 90 degrees so that less then

1/2 the mass ( 4 grams? ) was moved or that the new pad's are smaller

and are spring loaded?
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You still don't understand the whole concept of the car do you? did you even READ what is posted? or you only look what is posted? TK posted a very good information about the new brake system of the 966, so READ!
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You still don't understand the whole concept of the car do you?
Well, I have to agree with Michael there, i mean how much difference does 4 grams make for the CG...

But you are a person that if it is written, it has to be true?...
I also like to think further, just like Michael does....
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Well, I have to agree with Michael there, i mean how much difference does 4 grams make for the CG...

But you are a person that if it is written, it has to be true?...
I also like to think further, just like Michael does....
Lwr cg is always better end of story
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You still don't understand the whole concept of the car do you? did you even READ what is posted? or you only look what is posted? TK posted a very good information about the new brake system of the 966, so READ!
have you ran both car's if you have, and you look at it closely then you

would know, what it is i am talking about , I am not saying that moving it

has no effect on cg but the working part effects the car more and that

together the sum of all parts, this is the best yet
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Is the car fast? Yes!! Is it better than the 960? Yes!

Then who gives a flying monkey turd why? It seems some people just want to argue. Just give it up already people!!! The car is effing fast!!!!!!

Shees!!! Its pissing me off!! And those of you who know me know how hard it is to piss me off!!!
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Is the car fast? Yes!! Is it better than the 960? Yes!

Then who gives a flying monkey turd why? It seems some people just want to argue. Just give it up already people!!! The car is effing fast!!!!!!

Shees!!! Its pissing me off!! And those of you who know me know how hard it is to piss me off!!!
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Is the car fast? Yes!! Is it better than the 960? Yes!

Then who gives a flying monkey turd why? It seems some people just want to argue. Just give it up already people!!! The car is effing fast!!!!!!

Shees!!! Its pissing me off!! And those of you who know me know how hard it is to piss me off!!!
It's not a argument ,and we should be done with it now.
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You guys can handle all the technical aspects of the car, ill step out of this thread.
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Nigel if i remember correctly you did realy well with the car at the winternats, Im listening to you my freind!
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