Mixing 1/8 on road fuel
#1
Mixing 1/8 on road fuel
Hi guys, looking for some help on mixing fuel..... unfortunately we do not have all the top fuel brands available and the only other option is to mix my own batch. I can source good nitro and meth. My question is what good oils should I use? Totally synthetic or should I add castor. Also what are the percentage splits for oils. We have klotz k-100 and there degum castor locally too. Are there better oils around, and what about igniters and anti foaming agents. Any help would be great, I run 1/8 circiut.
Warren
Warren
#2
Hi guys, looking for some help on mixing fuel..... unfortunately we do not have all the top fuel brands available and the only other option is to mix my own batch. I can source good nitro and meth. My question is what good oils should I use? Totally synthetic or should I add castor. Also what are the percentage splits for oils. We have klotz k-100 and there degum castor locally too. Are there better oils around, and what about igniters and anti foaming agents. Any help would be great, I run 1/8 circiut.
Warren
Warren
Hope this helps!!
#3
Hi guys, looking for some help on mixing fuel..... unfortunately we do not have all the top fuel brands available and the only other option is to mix my own batch. I can source good nitro and meth. My question is what good oils should I use? Totally synthetic or should I add castor. Also what are the percentage splits for oils. We have klotz k-100 and there degum castor locally too. Are there better oils around, and what about igniters and anti foaming agents. Any help would be great, I run 1/8 circiut.
Warren
Warren
Methanol is the most important ingredient in nitro fuel.
Cheap methanol makes you engine run like crap and will let it rust.
For oils, use Klotz Benol castor oil and Klotz Techniplate synthetic oil.
4% of each oil is a good point to start with. If you want more security, use 6% castor and 4 % synth.
Formula:
25% Nitro methane
4% Benol
4% Techniplate
67% Methanol
Mix it by volume using metric measurements, it's soo much more precise and easier.
When you make bigger batches which you want to store for a while, make sure to put a nitrogen blanket on the fuel in the can, so it won't spoil. Same goes for the methanol. The stuff is hygroscopic and will react with the moisture in the air.
Yep, it's not as simple as it looks
#4
I mix:
25% nitro
3% Castrol Racing-M (also known as M50)
6% Castrol MSSR
66% methanol
25% nitro
3% Castrol Racing-M (also known as M50)
6% Castrol MSSR
66% methanol
#5
What's so UN-simple about it? We may be using a rocket fuel but it's not rocket science.
About Klotz. It is about the best readily available stuff out there. There are a couple others I think are even better but I'm not sure they are still around (been a few years since I did any fuel). You definitely want castor but I would use a synthetic as well, about 50/50. Like Stefan said, 4% castor 4% syn is about perfect.
About Klotz. It is about the best readily available stuff out there. There are a couple others I think are even better but I'm not sure they are still around (been a few years since I did any fuel). You definitely want castor but I would use a synthetic as well, about 50/50. Like Stefan said, 4% castor 4% syn is about perfect.
#6
Geez, this has been very helpfull, but does the 8 percent offer good protection? And how would you rate the fuel made with klotz and Benol over the likes of Byrons and Tornado etc. Burnt my fingers with local fuel. Did 7 min on a tank and picked the car up on the cooling head of the motor, streched the piston on a near new motor.
Whats the diff between techniplate and kl-100?
Thanks guys
Whats the diff between techniplate and kl-100?
Thanks guys
#7
Hi wingracer, what are the other oils you prefered?
Thank you
Thank you
#8
#9
Geez, this has been very helpfull, but does the 8 percent offer good protection? And how would you rate the fuel made with klotz and Benol over the likes of Byrons and Tornado etc. Burnt my fingers with local fuel. Did 7 min on a tank and picked the car up on the cooling head of the motor, streched the piston on a near new motor.
Whats the diff between techniplate and kl-100?
Thanks guys
Whats the diff between techniplate and kl-100?
Thanks guys
When I lived in the States, I had a couple of negative experiences with fuel from the shelf.
I used ODonnell, which usually was very good.But every so often we got a few cans which were not. Motors broke or were really hard to tune.
You never really know how old the fuel is that you get from the hobby shop, since none of the nmanufacturers puts an expiration date on the can, so it could have been sitting at a distributor for month, even years.
That"s why I decided to make my own fuel. I was manager of a chemical company, so I had access to all the raw materials, and cheap :-)
With the help of Edward N.we came up with the above formula and the stuff was great. Best of all, it was always fresh.
Uriah Murnan also tried it and liked it very much. Just before the stuff became really popular, I decided to move back home...
The beauty about home made fuel is, that you have total control over the raw materials and the shelf life of the fuel.
#10
Hi Stefan, I got some specs for the meth that is produced locally and its states a min quality of 99.9 pure, is that OK, I have the spec sheet that I can send to you. I am sure you can make more sense of it than what I can. It goes for $1.05 per litre, if this is good enough then I can start mixing. Only downside is I have to buy 25 litres.
Cheers mate
Cheers mate
#11
Hi Stefan, I got some specs for the meth that is produced locally and its states a min quality of 99.9 pure, is that OK, I have the spec sheet that I can send to you. I am sure you can make more sense of it than what I can. It goes for $1.05 per litre, if this is good enough then I can start mixing. Only downside is I have to buy 25 litres.
Cheers mate
Cheers mate
$1.05 / litre is a good price and 25 litres is not much. I had to buy 200 litre drums
The meth costs you less than what you usually pay for one gallon of fuel
#12
200 l, how much racing have you done buddy? I would hate to know how many motors you go through in a year
#13
Just do it together with some friends. most people are interested in cheap and good fuel.
#14
Hi Roelof, where do you get your Castrol oils from.
And what do you guys think of Red Max olis, so far I can source all the stuff locally except castrol oils.
And what do you guys think of Red Max olis, so far I can source all the stuff locally except castrol oils.
#15
A while ago I did order 12 liter each at a car parts shop.
I believe they did handle it over to Castrol Classics based in England.
I believe they did handle it over to Castrol Classics based in England.