Go Back  R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro On-Road
GT class--buggy-based on road! >

GT class--buggy-based on road!

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

GT class--buggy-based on road!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-17-2012, 08:10 PM
  #8176  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (40)
 
Grenade10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Posts: 4,737
Trader Rating: 40 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by jneg
Ok, first since the 2 speed uses a solid center shaft it doesn't matter if you have both brakes up front or 1 and 1. The only thing that really matters is how fast the heat buildup can be disipated by them. So it is much easier to cool them with one in front and one rear. Second true brake vias can't be adjusted like in a buggy with a center diff but you can simulate the effect. By having one brake engage first then the other. To do this you need to have two brake levers. I use RC8 brake disks and RC8 brake linkages. With this setup you can have the rear lock earlier or later or any way you want. The disks are excellent and last a long time plus their compund grabs even with some fuel on them. Another Plus is that they have an inner aluminum center that dissipates a lot of heat. They are not direct fit but with some dremel work you will have more than enough brakes to lock them up at will. I have even had to remove brakes because they work soo good.
+1 on this set up .... Works as noted, also with both pads seems total heat is less over a long run. My 2 cents.

Last edited by Grenade10; 04-17-2012 at 10:03 PM.
Grenade10 is offline  
Old 04-17-2012, 08:21 PM
  #8177  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
briankstan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Utah
Posts: 274
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by jneg
Ok, first since the 2 speed uses a solid center shaft it doesn't matter if you have both brakes up front or 1 and 1. The only thing that really matters is how fast the heat buildup can be disipated by them. So it is much easier to cool them with one in front and one rear. Second true brake vias can't be adjusted like in a buggy with a center diff but you can simulate the effect. By having one brake engage first then the other. To do this you need to have two brake levers. I use RC8 brake disks and RC8 brake linkages. With this setup you can have the rear lock earlier or later or any way you want. The disks are excellent and last a long time plus their compund grabs even with some fuel on them. Another Plus is that they have an inner aluminum center that dissipates a lot of heat. They are not direct fit but with some dremel work you will have more than enough brakes to lock them up at will. I have even had to remove brakes because they work soo good.

Do you have any pictures of your setup? I'd like to see what you have done.
briankstan is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 07:45 AM
  #8178  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (1)
 
BIGCAT TX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 152
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

I only have the brakes in the front....I use the upgraded pads/disc as well as using a small spring in between to keep the apart when not braking. This way you can have a bit more space and when you let off brake it cools quicker by keeping the pads apart.

One thing I learned last weekend was that if I can get my car set up properly with the correct diff fluids I didn't need all the braking power I previously did by driving to hard into the corners. Having a set up to roll into the corner and pull out quicker under power allowed me to drive with almost zero brake needed. I only used brake when I was in traffic, otherwise just rolled through the corners.....

If you are using that much brake to heat it up and melt the plastic cup on the two speed holder your set up or driving style probably needs attention.
BIGCAT TX is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 09:31 AM
  #8179  
Tech Master
iTrader: (45)
 
tonylunatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Seabrook, TX
Posts: 1,115
Trader Rating: 45 (100%+)
Default

2012 RC PRO SERIES ON-ROAD NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP

IGT AMAIN- FIRST 9MIN

http://youtu.be/Ec6KZALSLwA
tonylunatic is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 09:47 AM
  #8180  
Tech Champion
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 6,299
Default

Has anyone tried the LRP ZR.30 in a DM-1 or IGT? They are being sold off at rock-bottom prices here - €60.. Used to be €200+.. Anyway, I like the idea of getting one and breaking it in in my DM-1, then later throwing a backplate on it and having it for my LST2's...

So far I feel like the gearing in my DM-1 needs more grunt anyway. The 21's and Mach 427 I've tried haven't even pushed it up into the 50's(mph) yet.. The little Rally Game tires are surely a factor there too... Still, I feel like it needs more muscle to push the gearing, as opposed to massive revs with some race .21... Could be wrong though - dunno'.. Do like the advantage of having an engine that can be run in several of my RC's(DM-1, SC8, LST2's, etc..)
Herrsavage is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 10:22 AM
  #8181  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (17)
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Chicago Illinois USA
Posts: 9,291
Trader Rating: 17 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Speyederjedi
When I had my DM-1 I changed it to a front rear set-up (1 in front of the 2 speed and 1 in the back) so I could adjust how I control braking front to rear. I liked it much better that way because it didn't upset the stance of the car as much under braking. IMO going to a front\rear brake setup is better.

Regards,

Daniel
Originally Posted by tonylunatic
I agree the front rear setup works the best.But use the upgraded pads and rotors.
Originally Posted by jneg
Ok, first since the 2 speed uses a solid center shaft it doesn't matter if you have both brakes up front or 1 and 1. The only thing that really matters is how fast the heat buildup can be disipated by them. So it is much easier to cool them with one in front and one rear. Second true brake vias can't be adjusted like in a buggy with a center diff but you can simulate the effect. By having one brake engage first then the other. To do this you need to have two brake levers. I use RC8 brake disks and RC8 brake linkages. With this setup you can have the rear lock earlier or later or any way you want. The disks are excellent and last a long time plus their compund grabs even with some fuel on them. Another Plus is that they have an inner aluminum center that dissipates a lot of heat. They are not direct fit but with some dremel work you will have more than enough brakes to lock them up at will. I have even had to remove brakes because they work soo good.
Thank you all.....now, what upgrade brake pad/disc that I should buy...? Brand and model # please...thanks.
Solara is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 10:23 AM
  #8182  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (17)
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Chicago Illinois USA
Posts: 9,291
Trader Rating: 17 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by jneg
Ok, first since the 2 speed uses a solid center shaft it doesn't matter if you have both brakes up front or 1 and 1. The only thing that really matters is how fast the heat buildup can be disipated by them. So it is much easier to cool them with one in front and one rear. Second true brake vias can't be adjusted like in a buggy with a center diff but you can simulate the effect. By having one brake engage first then the other. To do this you need to have two brake levers. I use RC8 brake disks and RC8 brake linkages. With this setup you can have the rear lock earlier or later or any way you want. The disks are excellent and last a long time plus their compund grabs even with some fuel on them. Another Plus is that they have an inner aluminum center that dissipates a lot of heat. They are not direct fit but with some dremel work you will have more than enough brakes to lock them up at will. I have even had to remove brakes because they work soo good.
You have a picture to show what does that look like..? Thanks.
Solara is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 11:31 AM
  #8183  
Tech Master
iTrader: (2)
 
Winner's Circle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Atlanta, Georgia USA
Posts: 1,196
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Herrsavage
Has anyone tried the LRP ZR.30 in a DM-1 or IGT? They are being sold off at rock-bottom prices here - €60.. Used to be €200+.. Anyway, I like the idea of getting one and breaking it in in my DM-1, then later throwing a backplate on it and having it for my LST2's...

So far I feel like the gearing in my DM-1 needs more grunt anyway. The 21's and Mach 427 I've tried haven't even pushed it up into the 50's(mph) yet.. The little Rally Game tires are surely a factor there too... Still, I feel like it needs more muscle to push the gearing, as opposed to massive revs with some race .21... Could be wrong though - dunno'.. Do like the advantage of having an engine that can be run in several of my RC's(DM-1, SC8, LST2's, etc..)
I am running a LRP .28 in my GT2. The engine is very impressive and turns faster laps than this same car did with a RB.21 Rody Roem engine installed. I think I paid about $170 for this engine and it is really fast with strong pull off the corners.

We are limited of a max engine size of .28 so I have not tried the .30. However if the .30 is anything like the .28 then it will be a great engine.

Lee
Winner's Circle is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 11:33 AM
  #8184  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (55)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Oregon
Posts: 755
Trader Rating: 55 (100%+)
Default DM1 dual brakes

Here's a pic of my dual brake setup. You can see that it is just two identical setups on each side of the 2 speed. This is using the RC8 linkage parts. I'm using the Ofna CNC brake disk and sintered pads. (those are Kyosho pads on the back just because I had them lying around, the Ofna ones actually fit better).
Attached Thumbnails GT class--buggy-based on road!-img_0136.jpg  
WatchOut is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 12:05 PM
  #8185  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (17)
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Chicago Illinois USA
Posts: 9,291
Trader Rating: 17 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by WatchOut
Here's a pic of my dual brake setup. You can see that it is just two identical setups on each side of the 2 speed. This is using the RC8 linkage parts. I'm using the Ofna CNC brake disk and sintered pads. (those are Kyosho pads on the back just because I had them lying around, the Ofna ones actually fit better).
Thank you....very detailed information.
Solara is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 12:38 PM
  #8186  
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 600
Default

Originally Posted by WatchOut
Here's a pic of my dual brake setup. You can see that it is just two identical setups on each side of the 2 speed. This is using the RC8 linkage parts. I'm using the Ofna CNC brake disk and sintered pads. (those are Kyosho pads on the back just because I had them lying around, the Ofna ones actually fit better).
Yes that's how I have mine. The difference is that I use RC8 Brakes as well. But the linkage set up is the way to go.
jneg is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 12:59 PM
  #8187  
Tech Regular
 
VexVegaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Brooklyn / Staten Island
Posts: 347
Default

Finally got my GT2 back together after being ran over by a car

before..


now..


Thanks to brooklyn hobbies for the great price and leon for the misc parts and hump pack, much appreciated!
VexVegaz is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 03:31 PM
  #8188  
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 584
Default

Originally Posted by Solara
DM1-Spec owner....is there any benefit to have double brakes? If so...2 disk double brake in front of the 2-speed gear box or like some truggy with 1 front 1 back at the 2-speed...?

The Dm1 Spec I have has 2 disc brake system on the front and I am wondering I should add one at the back....thanks.
Howard.... You doubt me
BSYDOR is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 03:33 PM
  #8189  
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 584
Default

Originally Posted by Solara
Thank you all.....now, what upgrade brake pad/disc that I should buy...? Brand and model # please...thanks.

Oh your torturing me... Aren't you

Are you sure you still love me?..
BSYDOR is offline  
Old 04-19-2012, 05:26 AM
  #8190  
Tech Regular
 
VexVegaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Brooklyn / Staten Island
Posts: 347
Default

Can you guys recommend a hauler bag that has a tools compartment at the top and can fit a gt2 that's priced around 100 - 150. I hate having to haul around a tool box and the car and the Tx.

Thanks!
VexVegaz is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.