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Old 05-07-2010, 01:33 PM   #3421
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Mhhh i disagree ... SPEC classes its always about the how LOW budget, BIG speed and BIG quality you can get ...


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Maybe get the same people that did such a great job with the 235mm class
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Anyone have any pictures of nicely painted Blackhawk Warrior bodies??? I'm picking one up tomorrow and really would like to have some paint ideas - something that will look realistic on the track!!!!!

or I could just go with my normal WHITE....
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:46 PM   #3423
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Mhhh i disagree ... SPEC classes its always about the how LOW budget, BIG speed and BIG quality you can get ...

If you are loyal to the same parameters used for first time list of SPEC engines, a novarossi SPEC engine at US$ 250 or US$ 300 will not be in the list, it needs to be low buck, not huge power amd good quality ...

Anyway, let the time decide and wait for that engine ...

On the other hand, i just saw ROAR with a draft of rules for GT ... what you think Jeff about it ?, im not 100% convinced ...

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I apologize if I didn’t explain myself.

A hi-quality Italian Spec engine is a positive for the GT class.
The value would go above & beyond the additional cost of $25 or $50 dollars more than the $200 dollar limit being followed by most GT Spec groups around the world.

A hi-quality engine that has a long life-span would provide less “need for replacements” and help keep racers from walking away from GT racing out of frustration or double engine expense.

I’m not talking about the introduction of a “boring” or a “rocket-ship” or $300 dollar price tag engine.

An engine that can run similar lap times (+ or -) with the same car/driver and track, as one of our accepted Spec class engines, that has always been the goal for our GT Spec class.

So please, don’t question my loyalty again. OK Bro.

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Old 05-07-2010, 07:53 PM   #3424
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Anyone have any pictures of nicely painted Blackhawk Warrior bodies??? I'm picking one up tomorrow and really would like to have some paint ideas - something that will look realistic on the track!!!!!

or I could just go with my normal WHITE....
Thank you for checking it out.

Look forward to seeing you're Warrior!

Hope you enjoy it.
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Old 05-08-2010, 05:59 PM   #3425
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No intentions of offence to you man !! ... sorry if you felt attacked.

I really hope to make it to Mexico ...

ROAR will organice something around GT with their set of rules ?

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Patricio,
I apologize if I didn’t explain myself.

A hi-quality Italian Spec engine is a positive for the GT class.
The value would go above & beyond the additional cost of $25 or $50 dollars more than the $200 dollar limit being followed by most GT Spec groups around the world.

A hi-quality engine that has a long life-span would provide less “need for replacements” and help keep racers from walking away from GT racing out of frustration or double engine expense.

I’m not talking about the introduction of a “boring” or a “rocket-ship” or $300 dollar price tag engine.

An engine that can run similar lap times (+ or -) with the same car/driver and track, as one of our accepted Spec class engines, that has always been the goal for our GT Spec class.

So please, don’t question my loyalty again. OK Bro.

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Old 05-09-2010, 11:56 AM   #3426
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If you are loyal to the same parameters used for first time list of SPEC engines, a novarossi SPEC engine will not be in the list
Pato,

When you decided to question my personal loyalty to the GT Spec class because of the possible addition of a new Spec class engine that offers greater quality than the majority of the engines on our “Approved Engine” list…… it is an attack, plain & simple.

Maybe we should just let it go and see if the brand in question has a suitable engine option for our Spec class needs. OK
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I think the Novarossi N21rlimited would be a better choice. It is the same h.p. as the VG and cost is about the same. The 5XLT is 2.6 H.P. and 255.00 This is close to the O.S. V. Spec which is 2.5 H.P. and only a few dollar more. I still don't think the motor should be more then $200.00
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I think the Novarossi N21rlimited would be a better choice. It is the same h.p. as the VG and cost is about the same. The 5XLT is 2.6 H.P. and 255.00 This is close to the O.S. V. Spec which is 2.5 H.P. and only a few dollar more. I still don't think the motor should be more then $200.00
Bernie,

It does look like a good one, but the only ones found on a google retailer search are Amain for $139.99 and it shows out of stock and a guy on ebay.

From what I've been told it was limited production anyway, so unless its commercially available in shops, it doesn't seem like it would help the class or retailers very much.

Maybe we'll hear some positive news from Joaquin this week.
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I think everyone is missing the point of racing with a Novarossi engine. Buying 3 or 4 engines to complete a season of racing, completely defeats the purpose of spending $200.00 or less on an engine.
Novarossi engines are well proven performers, the higher initial cost will pay for itself many times over by saving time, frustration and dollars in the long run.
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Tabushi, how are things going? It's been a couple months since the quake, you and family doing ok?
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Tabushi, how are things going? It's been a couple months since the quake, you and family doing ok?

Yes man all good thanks god ...

Country still have some problems, but bigger ones are solved ...

thanks a lot for asking man !!
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Well fellas, I can one up this. If you are going to consider the new Novarossi 3-port .21, then you also need to consider the RB 3-port .21. RB has made an inexpense 3-port for several years that is just as good of quality as the Novarossi and has been selling for under $200 since its inception. There seems to be this big push to add the Novarossi for reasons unknown. If you are going to do that, then lets add the other 30+ engines I found in my research that are under $200 and are similar in specs.
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Please. Blaming ROAR for the demise of 235 2wd is like blaming the spoon for Rosie Odonnell being fat.
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What many of you don't realize is that this can get out of hand really quick and eventually ruin the spec class of GT. Today it is the Novarossi, next, someone will be crying because the RB engine isn't being included. Next, it will be the fans of Werks engines or Orion engines or LRP engines and so on and so on. Then, there will be no difference between open and spec class and the question will be asked, "So what is the purpose of having two separate classes when they are about the same?" A line has to be drawn somewhere for the sake of keeping this under some kind of control. We already have an open engine class in GT racing where you can run any engine you want and that is GT1 Open.
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Please. Blaming ROAR for the demise of 235 2wd is like blaming the spoon for Rosie Odonnell being fat.
Yes, there were some within the organization that helped kill off the 235mm class. You can kid yourself but it is what it is. However, this is not the time or place for this discussion. This is about GT and what we can do to improve some avenues and maintain the integrity of our form of racing.
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