1/10th scale 200mm racing
#1
1/10th scale 200mm racing
Hey guys, new to the forum and looking at maybe getting into the 1/10th 200mm class, jumping from 1/8 scale buggies. Anyone done this or has experience with both?
What are the differences in terms of money spent, time spent, set up, and such. I'm in the Ann Arbor/Toledo area and there seams to be a lot of on road tracks near by, Detroit and Toledo being the two nicest ones that I know off. But like I said, I'm new to the area, so I need to find out all the tracks.
I have never raced on road, so I'm unsure about set-ups and such, although I'm assuming it is close to offroad, but with different options. I have always wanted to though.
So, anyone can give me some comparisons and maybe some links to some tracks and clubs while I search online, that would be great.
Thanks.
What are the differences in terms of money spent, time spent, set up, and such. I'm in the Ann Arbor/Toledo area and there seams to be a lot of on road tracks near by, Detroit and Toledo being the two nicest ones that I know off. But like I said, I'm new to the area, so I need to find out all the tracks.
I have never raced on road, so I'm unsure about set-ups and such, although I'm assuming it is close to offroad, but with different options. I have always wanted to though.
So, anyone can give me some comparisons and maybe some links to some tracks and clubs while I search online, that would be great.
Thanks.
#2
I switched from Monster Truck racing three years ago and started running 200mm. It is a lot of fun. I race in Cincinnati, Ohio at the TSRCAR club.
I do not know how much setup you use with 1/8 Buggy, but with On-Road racing, setup is very important and often very subtle changes can make a big difference.
The big setup adjustments are:
TIRE COMPOUNDS, SHOCKS, RIDE HEIGHT, DROOP
Intermediate Adjustments:
ROLL CENTERS, CAMBER, CASTER, TOE-IN
OtherAdjustmets:
SWAY BARS, SHOCK OILS, SHOCK PISTONS, BODY DESIGN
A good setup systems is very important in my opintion:
HUDY MAKES A VERY GOOD ONE
TM MAGIC IS VERY GOOD AND MUCH CHEAPER
INTEGY
As far as expense...the largest expense beyond what you would normally spend in off road would be the Foam Tires. You will get about two maybe three runs out of a set for qualifing (depending on how ruff the surface) and you will most likely get one run out of a set for the Mains. At $12-$15 a pair, it adds up. Fuel would be the same, most of your tools would cary over as well as radio and electronic equipment. Most likley the starter box would work as well.
As far as tracks in your area, you are on Target...
Toledo has a fine facility.
Detroit may be on the way out.
Mentor, Ohio club is trying to keep something going.
Canada: Hamilton, Ontario has a very nice facility.
AND OF COURSE MY HOME TRACK IN Hamilton, Ohio www.TSRCAR.com
Hope this helps.
Doug
I do not know how much setup you use with 1/8 Buggy, but with On-Road racing, setup is very important and often very subtle changes can make a big difference.
The big setup adjustments are:
TIRE COMPOUNDS, SHOCKS, RIDE HEIGHT, DROOP
Intermediate Adjustments:
ROLL CENTERS, CAMBER, CASTER, TOE-IN
OtherAdjustmets:
SWAY BARS, SHOCK OILS, SHOCK PISTONS, BODY DESIGN
A good setup systems is very important in my opintion:
HUDY MAKES A VERY GOOD ONE
TM MAGIC IS VERY GOOD AND MUCH CHEAPER
INTEGY
As far as expense...the largest expense beyond what you would normally spend in off road would be the Foam Tires. You will get about two maybe three runs out of a set for qualifing (depending on how ruff the surface) and you will most likely get one run out of a set for the Mains. At $12-$15 a pair, it adds up. Fuel would be the same, most of your tools would cary over as well as radio and electronic equipment. Most likley the starter box would work as well.
As far as tracks in your area, you are on Target...
Toledo has a fine facility.
Detroit may be on the way out.
Mentor, Ohio club is trying to keep something going.
Canada: Hamilton, Ontario has a very nice facility.
AND OF COURSE MY HOME TRACK IN Hamilton, Ohio www.TSRCAR.com
Hope this helps.
Doug
#3
Doug,
thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate it. It does seem that on road racing is not as popular as it used to be, but I never raced it before.
So, all 200mm classes run foam tires? Do they used rubber ones like back in the day?
Also, I seem to notice that only a certain bodies are run, and not any sedan body. Is that just from the aerodynamics they provide.
Once again, thanks.
thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate it. It does seem that on road racing is not as popular as it used to be, but I never raced it before.
So, all 200mm classes run foam tires? Do they used rubber ones like back in the day?
Also, I seem to notice that only a certain bodies are run, and not any sedan body. Is that just from the aerodynamics they provide.
Once again, thanks.
#4
Yes, 200mm run foam tires...and they come in many shore ratings from 35 shore (soft) to 45 shore (hard) depending on what traction you are trying to acheive with the surface you are racing. It is a very good tunning tool.
As far as bodies go...most people run the sedan bodies, mainly for aerodynamics and to be ROAR Legal. At our track and most others, if it is club racing, the club doesn't care what body you race.
Doug
As far as bodies go...most people run the sedan bodies, mainly for aerodynamics and to be ROAR Legal. At our track and most others, if it is club racing, the club doesn't care what body you race.
Doug
#5
Cost
Doug,
thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate it. It does seem that on road racing is not as popular as it used to be, but I never raced it before.
So, all 200mm classes run foam tires? Do they used rubber ones like back in the day?
Also, I seem to notice that only a certain bodies are run, and not any sedan body. Is that just from the aerodynamics they provide.
Once again, thanks.
thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate it. It does seem that on road racing is not as popular as it used to be, but I never raced it before.
So, all 200mm classes run foam tires? Do they used rubber ones like back in the day?
Also, I seem to notice that only a certain bodies are run, and not any sedan body. Is that just from the aerodynamics they provide.
Once again, thanks.
Nothing against 200mm On-Road cars, but if money is a concern, these bigger cars are less expensive to run.
Many tracks are starting up “classes” for these cars, check in your area.
Check out this link
http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/videos/...INFERNO_GT.wmv
#6
Tech Adept
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Hey Samayoa,
If you are looking for price wise, the cost to start the 1/8 may be a little higher than the 1/10, because of the engine and the kit itself. After that, they pretty much run the same, since the 1/8 may need more fuel to run and it will cost you more $$ for fuel. But like flack said, he cost on the tires for the 1/10 will be more than the 1/8. So in a way it balance itself out.
But no matter what we say, it will be you who will make the final choice. Also, you have to check in your area, what is being supported the most, since sooner or later, you will need parts to replace your damaged ones.
Good luck
If you are looking for price wise, the cost to start the 1/8 may be a little higher than the 1/10, because of the engine and the kit itself. After that, they pretty much run the same, since the 1/8 may need more fuel to run and it will cost you more $$ for fuel. But like flack said, he cost on the tires for the 1/10 will be more than the 1/8. So in a way it balance itself out.
But no matter what we say, it will be you who will make the final choice. Also, you have to check in your area, what is being supported the most, since sooner or later, you will need parts to replace your damaged ones.
Good luck