1LikesKyosho VoneR Thread
01-02-2003, 12:10 PM
#5641
I know this is a bit late in the posts but getting to the tires again; I found that the V1 RR likes a softer compound tire up front. Never tried the solid axle.
01-02-2003, 01:55 PM
#5642
Re: I remembered your post in the Trader feedback forum
Originally posted by popsracer
patelladragger;
I have a couple of friends that became enemies for life over a deal similar to your with Diva. They used to be Racing buddies and hung together all the time, but now they don't even speak to each other.
I've never had a chassis as thrashed as the one that Diva sent you. I think this guys cruises the message boards looking for suckers. (didn't mean you)
patelladragger;
I have a couple of friends that became enemies for life over a deal similar to your with Diva. They used to be Racing buddies and hung together all the time, but now they don't even speak to each other.
I've never had a chassis as thrashed as the one that Diva sent you. I think this guys cruises the message boards looking for suckers. (didn't mean you)
01-02-2003, 02:12 PM
#5643
oh lord here we go again. 
AMG it's not that serious man, let's just kill this before it gets started. Noone is blind at least 10 different rctech members have expressed the same or similar sentiment to me about that deal so it isn't a secret - no need to get riled up about it.
AMG it's not that serious man, let's just kill this before it gets started. Noone is blind at least 10 different rctech members have expressed the same or similar sentiment to me about that deal so it isn't a secret - no need to get riled up about it.
01-02-2003, 02:16 PM
#5644
It is cool patella, but this is NOT the thread to be using for this purpose. As you pointed out there are many Diva threads in the feedback area to discuss this. Lets keep the discussions in the right place.
01-02-2003, 02:27 PM
#5645
Originally posted by AMGRacer
It is cool patella, but this is NOT the thread to be using for this purpose. As you pointed out there are many Diva threads in the feedback area to discuss this. Lets keep the discussions in the right place.
It is cool patella, but this is NOT the thread to be using for this purpose. As you pointed out there are many Diva threads in the feedback area to discuss this. Lets keep the discussions in the right place.
01-02-2003, 02:43 PM
#5646
Originally posted by autotr8er
I know this is a bit late in the posts but getting to the tires again; I found that the V1 RR likes a softer compound tire up front. Never tried the solid axle.
I know this is a bit late in the posts but getting to the tires again; I found that the V1 RR likes a softer compound tire up front. Never tried the solid axle.
Solid axle is very tough to drive if you have anything other than excellent traction. Basically if you are off throttle and turn the car the back end will begin a slide. Obviously if you are sliding then you are washing speed off pretty rapidly with foam tires. Now this is actually the design! But you want to slide as little as possible to prevent speed loss. Also a slide will quickly become a spin if it gets going too far.
So the driving style is back off earlier (like driving a one way) adjust corner enrty speed, turn in which basically flicks the rear end out and washes speed, and then get back onto the gas to pull you around the corner.
01-02-2003, 04:51 PM
#5647
Originally posted by AMGRacer
Now thats something I have never found. You have any more details exactly what you mean there? Sounds like something to test out.
Solid axle is very tough to drive if you have anything other than excellent traction. Basically if you are off throttle and turn the car the back end will begin a slide. Obviously if you are sliding then you are washing speed off pretty rapidly with foam tires. Now this is actually the design! But you want to slide as little as possible to prevent speed loss. Also a slide will quickly become a spin if it gets going too far.
So the driving style is back off earlier (like driving a one way) adjust corner enrty speed, turn in which basically flicks the rear end out and washes speed, and then get back onto the gas to pull you around the corner.
Now thats something I have never found. You have any more details exactly what you mean there? Sounds like something to test out.
Solid axle is very tough to drive if you have anything other than excellent traction. Basically if you are off throttle and turn the car the back end will begin a slide. Obviously if you are sliding then you are washing speed off pretty rapidly with foam tires. Now this is actually the design! But you want to slide as little as possible to prevent speed loss. Also a slide will quickly become a spin if it gets going too far.
So the driving style is back off earlier (like driving a one way) adjust corner enrty speed, turn in which basically flicks the rear end out and washes speed, and then get back onto the gas to pull you around the corner.
Also with the solid you don't have to kick the rear out unless you want to, for sweepers and corners where you want to carry the speed you can partial throttle through it and the rear stays planted with the proper setup. The BIG advantage I see for solid is the amount of juice you can give her on exit though.
You don't need big traction for it to work. Now if manti is running solid WITH yellow/yellow he's one helluva driver or his track has hella grip.
01-02-2003, 05:56 PM
#5648
Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
He he . . Actually I'm reasonably sure he'd miss you. In fact, I've had cause to castigate him for being TOO polite on the track.
He he . . Actually I'm reasonably sure he'd miss you. In fact, I've had cause to castigate him for being TOO polite on the track.
His driving style is a kind of strange combination of hero worship for rjl mixed with Playstation agression.
He will routinely get four cars before the first corner
He does get good starts though, must be his glowplugs (in joke)
DC
01-02-2003, 09:38 PM
#5649
Tech Elite
Question about shock oils
Guy's;
Just so you know, I am currently racing a Reflex N/T which is the same basic design as the V1R so most everything that applies to the Kyosho will also apply to the Reflex.
Now my question, I have a couple of friends that run V1R's and they are using 100wt/80wt oils in the F/R shocks. What are your opinions on doing this? I am currently using 45/40 in my car and it seems to handle very well, but if there is somethingto be gained by going to the stiffer oils then........
Thank you,
Just so you know, I am currently racing a Reflex N/T which is the same basic design as the V1R so most everything that applies to the Kyosho will also apply to the Reflex.
Now my question, I have a couple of friends that run V1R's and they are using 100wt/80wt oils in the F/R shocks. What are your opinions on doing this? I am currently using 45/40 in my car and it seems to handle very well, but if there is somethingto be gained by going to the stiffer oils then........
Thank you,
01-02-2003, 09:45 PM
#5650
Tech Master
Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
Thank gawd for you, HAG.
Actually, I think the MTX-3 may well be a better car - slightly.
Will it make my driver (13 year old son) any quicker? - probably not.
Will he go faster with the AMG/Manti "MoneR" mod's? - if they work, probably yes.
Why? - because we have a lot of development time, experience and effort tied up in the VoneR.
I've watched (boy do I watch) a couple of the top guys down here struggle with the understeer of the MTX-3 box set-up. They've made some good headway with their development and undoubtedly will continue to do so.
We have the Vic's on in 4 weeks and the last thing I need is to sort a brand new car. I reckon I can make the MoneR mod's work in that time, though.
After the last year's Vic's we figured we needed three seconds per lap to get into the pointy end of the field for this year. Well, we got about 2.5 seconds of it, but didn't count on the top guys finding another second or so, also. - drat.
Besides, as I said, I've already bought five cars this year, and that's enough - ouch.
And here's another opportunity to repeat my creed:
Most of the differences between cars is at the transmitter end, not the receiver end.
So, what's the go with these Nitro Shoes - Japanese rubber, are they?
Thank gawd for you, HAG.
Actually, I think the MTX-3 may well be a better car - slightly.
Will it make my driver (13 year old son) any quicker? - probably not.
Will he go faster with the AMG/Manti "MoneR" mod's? - if they work, probably yes.
Why? - because we have a lot of development time, experience and effort tied up in the VoneR.
I've watched (boy do I watch) a couple of the top guys down here struggle with the understeer of the MTX-3 box set-up. They've made some good headway with their development and undoubtedly will continue to do so.
We have the Vic's on in 4 weeks and the last thing I need is to sort a brand new car. I reckon I can make the MoneR mod's work in that time, though.
After the last year's Vic's we figured we needed three seconds per lap to get into the pointy end of the field for this year. Well, we got about 2.5 seconds of it, but didn't count on the top guys finding another second or so, also. - drat.
Besides, as I said, I've already bought five cars this year, and that's enough - ouch.
And here's another opportunity to repeat my creed:
Most of the differences between cars is at the transmitter end, not the receiver end.
So, what's the go with these Nitro Shoes - Japanese rubber, are they?
I was just observing these people trying to make there car perform on a dusty track and pretty much threw in the towel after a couple of hours.
I do believe this car will and pronbably is a screamer...BUT I do need to get my but kicked a few times to believe before I shell out $350 for a new kit.
I also got a set of Nitro Shoes, will give them a go this weekend at the race
01-02-2003, 09:49 PM
#5651
Tech Master
Originally posted by AMGRacer
Well thats good to hear HAG! On many of our local tracks MTX3s have been breaking lap records, but I am beginning to think it is because people are upgrading from older cars. Serpent and Yokomo to be precice. The MTX3 is hands down better than these cars. The more I am doing to the Kyosho to make it like the Mugen (copycat?) the more it is performing well.
Well thats good to hear HAG! On many of our local tracks MTX3s have been breaking lap records, but I am beginning to think it is because people are upgrading from older cars. Serpent and Yokomo to be precice. The MTX3 is hands down better than these cars. The more I am doing to the Kyosho to make it like the Mugen (copycat?) the more it is performing well.
To be honest I think the rear Idea is a good one but I have to wait and see what uncle Manti comes up with because he drives on a small track like I do.
01-02-2003, 09:57 PM
#5652
Tech Master
Originally posted by Manticore
Well, I am pretty sure we need traction to perform. V1R/V1RR is a very stable rear end car and that's why it performs better then the rest of it competitor on a low grip track.
Well, I am pretty sure we need traction to perform. V1R/V1RR is a very stable rear end car and that's why it performs better then the rest of it competitor on a low grip track.
I agree to a point Fokkies MTX2 was fine for a few laps and so was a Friend of mines NTC3.
I am not Bashing the new car, but with all the Boasting about it kind of made me scepticle....But I would like to try one for myself
Does any one drive on a BANKED OVAL that has the center turned into an infield like ME
Or are most of the tracks on a rather flat surface.
01-02-2003, 10:10 PM
#5653
Re: Question about shock oils
Originally posted by popsracer
Guy's;
Just so you know, I am currently racing a Reflex N/T which is the same basic design as the V1R so most everything that applies to the Kyosho will also apply to the Reflex.
Now my question, I have a couple of friends that run V1R's and they are using 100wt/80wt oils in the F/R shocks. What are your opinions on doing this? I am currently using 45/40 in my car and it seems to handle very well, but if there is somethingto be gained by going to the stiffer oils then........
Thank you,
Guy's;
Just so you know, I am currently racing a Reflex N/T which is the same basic design as the V1R so most everything that applies to the Kyosho will also apply to the Reflex.
Now my question, I have a couple of friends that run V1R's and they are using 100wt/80wt oils in the F/R shocks. What are your opinions on doing this? I am currently using 45/40 in my car and it seems to handle very well, but if there is somethingto be gained by going to the stiffer oils then........
Thank you,
If i remember the reflex ones have foam compesators in them ???
So it might be hard to comment on comparisons
If it helps running on med tracktion track running 60wt all round kit springs..
01-02-2003, 10:25 PM
#5654
Tech Elite
shocks on the reflex
chippy;
The standard Reflex kit has Aluminum pistons with 2 holes that are supposed to equal to the V1R stock pistons (supposed).
I have found that the Stock V1R black springs work best on the Reflex for most parking lot sized tracks.
The standard Reflex kit has Aluminum pistons with 2 holes that are supposed to equal to the V1R stock pistons (supposed).
I have found that the Stock V1R black springs work best on the Reflex for most parking lot sized tracks.
01-02-2003, 10:35 PM
#5655
Originally posted by HEYALIGNMENTGUY
Its good to hear, but hears a thought are you pushing the R a little harder?
To be honest I think the rear Idea is a good one but I have to wait and see what uncle Manti comes up with because he drives on a small track like I do.
Its good to hear, but hears a thought are you pushing the R a little harder?
To be honest I think the rear Idea is a good one but I have to wait and see what uncle Manti comes up with because he drives on a small track like I do.
Big track, 1/8th style sweeping and not too tight. More rear camber link angle gave noticably less roll in the rear end and the car squared up better out of a sweeping corner. However some traction was lost. Put camber link back to normal and gained rear traction but the back end took longer to square up out of the corner.
FYI it was timed with transponders etc. My laptimes were almost identical to the MTX3 laptimes, we were using the exact same motor JP RS12, and I think I piped him on best lap on short and long track layouts by like 0.2 seconds if I recall correctly.