Originally Posted by Grinder
I like the way you think Jeff.
This reminds me of this scammer getting scammed. Quite possibly the funniest thing Ive ever read.
Basically act like you didnt send him any motors. Then tell him your going to send him the package , sorry for the confusion etc etc.
Then send him a picture of a motor , and for customs. You select like $500 dollars. Heck tell him your sending him two motors.
He then pays like $100 to customs and gets nothing.
Also report it to FTC.gov
They try to take care of these matters (federal trade commission)
Also yeah Ive heard about this before via paypal it really makes no sense and if you didnt know by now. ALL PAYPAL CARES ABOUT IS THE BUYER. They dont give two s##ts about the seller. The buyer gets his money back in almost all cases where the seller can surcome to fraud even when there is full verification of the items recieval.
Id call perhaps paypal up and see what can be done and how to prevent this. But as far as I can figure anything sent overseas you can be frauded via paypal. Where it should be ok to send stuff to people in the US.
Reason why I never never never sell internationally anymore unless this person is an upstanding part of the rc-tech community.
Otherwise grinder , just tell people to send money via western union wire so you get cash in hand or have them fedex cash in an envelope and tell them they accept all risks. To insure it and they should have tracking to make sure the cash isnt lost. Its really the only way.
Given you have such great motors , a few hoops to jump through wouldnt be much at all. Another thing is to just find distributors in different countries who you can trust and just refer the International guys to them.
Thats all I can think of , Ive lots probably 500-800+ to international shipments. Its really stinky and it seems nothing can be done. Reason why I just dont care anymore. I hate having to drive to the post office , write out forms , pay extremely high shipping that always seems to be varied on so many factors. To just then have the guy rip me off or their stupid customs office hold it indefinentely because they couldnt find them or something else.
Ive never had a package come back , always had my return address with (return to address selected). So yeah , they can just pay me cash from now on. You can never get ripped on cash.
But beware of the new fraud , money orders. People send fake money order and it will cash , then 14 days later bank investigates and tada...they remove funds and your screwed.