Durometer
#16
Tech Elite
The one I have is called a fastlap TDM-1. Made by Peacock. It is made in japan. The company is Ozaki MFG, CO. LTD. The instructions are in japanesse, but you do not need them. Just remember that when you test your tires that you are a human checking these items. Some people get caught up it having different people opinion on the same tire and then say they are marked incorrect. What I use mine for is to be xonsistent within my own pits. I check a tire to see if one is harder than the other and so on. Not to see is it is the shore that is rated on the box. Hope this helps. If I can find a web site I will post it. And yes they are expensive, but not $500, more like $200.
#17
Fastlap TDM-1 Product Page (Japanese):
http://www.fastlap-rc.com/tdm1/tdm1.html
Price is 16,695 Yen or about $141.28 USD.
http://www.fastlap-rc.com/tdm1/tdm1.html
Price is 16,695 Yen or about $141.28 USD.
#18
Tech Elite
Originally Posted by rmdhawaii
Fastlap TDM-1 Product Page (Japanese):
http://www.fastlap-rc.com/tdm1/tdm1.html
Price is 16,695 Yen or about $141.28 USD.
http://www.fastlap-rc.com/tdm1/tdm1.html
Price is 16,695 Yen or about $141.28 USD.
Wow, you are fast.
#20
Originally Posted by rmdhawaii
Fastlap TDM-1 Product Page (Japanese):
http://www.fastlap-rc.com/tdm1/tdm1.html
Price is 16,695 Yen or about $141.28 USD.
http://www.fastlap-rc.com/tdm1/tdm1.html
Price is 16,695 Yen or about $141.28 USD.
#22
Originally Posted by cdelong
Jaco uses the PTC Asker C type. I called PTC before I even posted.... yes $650 for a durometer.
How the heck would you order that TDM-1?? There's nothing on the website to order a durometer?
How the heck would you order that TDM-1?? There's nothing on the website to order a durometer?
#23
Tech Elite
Originally Posted by cdelong
dj...
does the TDM-1 have a dual dial indicator to hold the max reading?
thanks
does the TDM-1 have a dual dial indicator to hold the max reading?
thanks
#24
Tech Elite
Originally Posted by cdelong
Jaco uses the PTC Asker C type. I called PTC before I even posted.... yes $650 for a durometer.
How the heck would you order that TDM-1?? There's nothing on the website to order a durometer?
How the heck would you order that TDM-1?? There's nothing on the website to order a durometer?
I noticed a phone #. Maybe there is a contact us button. Try to e-mail them.
#25
Tech Fanatic
[QUOTE=fraz]I find this funny since Jaco has used nothing but color coded compounds until their fairly recent entry (couple years) into the nitro tire market. Where is Jack? What's the scoop, fill us in?
Color coding was the standard when we entered the electric tire business. Even Arrows used colors back in the day for their gas tires. Durometer readings eventually were adopted for gas only. Durometer readings create more confusion for the average racer than you can imagine. I get calls on a weekly basis asking about why we have two different tires that "read 35". I can give you 5 different tires that read 35, but if you put the 35 gas fronts on the rear and grays on the front, you won't get very far. Durometers are only good to compare tires in the same "family". Gas guys know that- everyone else doesn't. If you want to save money, get a cheap durometer and use it to compare your tires RELATIVE TO EACH OTHER. Don't use it to "verify" Brand X or Brand Y's accuracy in labeling. Make it your own personal gauge of how your tires compare. In this regard, a cheap one works as good as an expensive one.
When the factory grades the rubber they use a Type C Asker. This is a more common method for measuring in Japan. Over here, the American manufacturers use a Type 00. We obviously use the Type C or a similarly calibrated durometer since our industry has adopted these numbers as the standard.
Color coding was the standard when we entered the electric tire business. Even Arrows used colors back in the day for their gas tires. Durometer readings eventually were adopted for gas only. Durometer readings create more confusion for the average racer than you can imagine. I get calls on a weekly basis asking about why we have two different tires that "read 35". I can give you 5 different tires that read 35, but if you put the 35 gas fronts on the rear and grays on the front, you won't get very far. Durometers are only good to compare tires in the same "family". Gas guys know that- everyone else doesn't. If you want to save money, get a cheap durometer and use it to compare your tires RELATIVE TO EACH OTHER. Don't use it to "verify" Brand X or Brand Y's accuracy in labeling. Make it your own personal gauge of how your tires compare. In this regard, a cheap one works as good as an expensive one.
When the factory grades the rubber they use a Type C Asker. This is a more common method for measuring in Japan. Over here, the American manufacturers use a Type 00. We obviously use the Type C or a similarly calibrated durometer since our industry has adopted these numbers as the standard.
#26
Tech Fanatic
We looked into having our own durometer made a few years back, but it was much too expensive. It really is insane what they get for these things. If you look inside there are only a few pieces. I suppose that since there isn't a huge market for durometers outside the rubber industry they need to make what they can on the few they sell.
#27
Tech Regular
http://www.longacreracing.com/articles/art.asp?artid=18
http://www.longacreracing.com/catalo...id=236&catid=9
This is a good article on how to use the durometer, is for big cars but it can help you out.
www.summitracing.com have durometrs for under $70. REMEMBER, we will use the durometres to check and fine tune our tires,
The scale that we need to use is A, base on this table and the pressure applied to the compound by the point or bit.
Durometer
Indenting foot
Type A
Hardened steel rod 1.1 mm - 1.4 mm dia, with a truncated 35º cone, 0.79 mm dia.
Applied force (g)
822 grams
Type D
Hardened steel rod 1.1 mm - 1.4 mm dia, with a 30º conical point, 0.1 mm radius tip
Applied force (g)
4550 grams
Material
Durometer
Scale
Hard Hat
75 D
Ebonite Rubber
100 A
Hard skateboard wheel
98 A
Solid truck tires
50 D
Soft skateboard wheel
75 A
Automotive tire tread
70 A
Door seal
55 A
Rubber band
25 A
Sorbothane
40 OO
Sorbothane
0 A
Chewing Gum
20 OO
HOPE this info helps out!! and REMEMBER HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.longacreracing.com/catalo...id=236&catid=9
This is a good article on how to use the durometer, is for big cars but it can help you out.
www.summitracing.com have durometrs for under $70. REMEMBER, we will use the durometres to check and fine tune our tires,
What I use mine for is to be xonsistent within my own pits. I check a tire to see if one is harder than the other and so on. Not to see is it is the shore that is rated on the box. Hope this helps. If I can find a web site I will post it. And yes they are expensive, but not $500, more like $200.
Durometer
Indenting foot
Type A
Hardened steel rod 1.1 mm - 1.4 mm dia, with a truncated 35º cone, 0.79 mm dia.
Applied force (g)
822 grams
Type D
Hardened steel rod 1.1 mm - 1.4 mm dia, with a 30º conical point, 0.1 mm radius tip
Applied force (g)
4550 grams
Material
Durometer
Scale
Hard Hat
75 D
Ebonite Rubber
100 A
Hard skateboard wheel
98 A
Solid truck tires
50 D
Soft skateboard wheel
75 A
Automotive tire tread
70 A
Door seal
55 A
Rubber band
25 A
Sorbothane
40 OO
Sorbothane
0 A
Chewing Gum
20 OO
HOPE this info helps out!! and REMEMBER HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
#30
Superior Hobbies has the Max Mod Durometers in stock.....
http://www.superiorhobbies.com/istar...id=MXM40001!SH
http://www.superiorhobbies.com/istar...id=MXM40001!SH