Originally Posted by Hicksey
so these two cars aren't that good
No Thats not true!
If you are comparing to what is being used as the "Latest & Greatest" then these are all outdated cars.
The problem is that nitro sedan in its more advanced levels have gotten to be more like 1/8 scale competitions with 1/8 budgets. If you are looking to compete at that level then you must have an "A" level car that has been released no more than 6 months ago. However for your average club level parking lot race, it is unnecessary overkill.
When nitro sedan advanced from nitro powered electrics to purpose built nitro chassis, many cars already had advanced enough for the average racer to be competitive.
What is important is to look more carefully at the features, durability, build quality of the parts and the value of the chassis before making a consideration.
The KV1 is the same as the Trinity Reflex NT and is the same as the Kyosho V One R and V One RR. Hence there are many alternate sources of parts and hop-ups for this car. IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE G4 OR ANY OF ITS OTHER VERSIONS.
The G4 is completely redesigned car that is much improved in lower CG. Its different versions offer different improvements and value. It is best to get the latest version of the G4 because the redesign has cured all the little problems it has had since the beginning.
Another is the Yokomo GT4. Avoid the RTRs. Get the latest version if you can find one because it offered the most feature and value. Otherwise, try to upgrade from no lesser than a PRO or and R version.
Another car worth looking at if you can find cheap is the GS Vision.
There are plenty of "cheap" deals to be had on older nitro sedans that are still very competitive but have lost their market value. If you keep your eyes open you can have a fun season of nitro sedan racing for less than $200 plus tires.