R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro Off-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-30-2012, 10:18 AM   #1
Tech Fanatic
 
drstrangelove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Singapore
Posts: 867
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default Do you activate ABS for off road?

Hi Guys,

for those transmitter with ABS function, do you use them on off road buggy?
__________________
Accepting sponsors who need to test their products durability :)
drstrangelove is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 10:29 AM   #2
Tech Master
 
305M3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NorCal
Posts: 1,179
Trader Rating: 40 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by drstrangelove View Post
Hi Guys,

for those transmitter with ABS function, do you use them on off road buggy?
I have the 4PK and I was running this on accident. I had no clue what the heck was going on and never got used to it. I've read it is useful for onroad applications, but not so much for off-road.

That is my experience. Once I figured out how to turn it off, I did.
305M3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 10:40 AM   #3
Tech Fanatic
 
drstrangelove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Singapore
Posts: 867
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

thanks mate, that's what I thought too.

Btw, just checking as the last line not clear. You do not know how to turn off the abs on 4pk?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 305M3 View Post
I have the 4PK and I was running this on accident. I had no clue what the heck was going on and never got used to it. I've read it is useful for onroad applications, but not so much for off-road.

That is my experience. Once I figured out how to turn it off, I did.
__________________
Accepting sponsors who need to test their products durability :)
drstrangelove is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 10:44 AM   #4
Tech Master
 
305M3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NorCal
Posts: 1,179
Trader Rating: 40 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by drstrangelove View Post
thanks mate, that's what I thought too.

Btw, just checking as the last line not clear. You do not know how to turn off the abs on 4pk?
I eventually figured it out. Initially the instructions were not clear - to me at least - and it was a bit of a pain.

The 4PK has so many features, as does every radio out there, that I only utilize 10% of they are capable of.

On an unrelated note, the OS Speed is broken in and I L-O-V-E it. Beautiful sound and crazy power.
305M3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 10:58 AM   #5
Tech Fanatic
 
drstrangelove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Singapore
Posts: 867
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Oh yah, tell me about Futaba, they are known for bad manual and bad naming of their options!

Sweet, i love my OS speed! it sound crazy... and yah, it is powerful. I haven't get to try the Orion one much, maybe this weekend I will go down to the Johor track again and run my truggy to have a feel of it but so far the orion engine sound sweet too mate!

Quote:
Originally Posted by 305M3 View Post
I eventually figured it out. Initially the instructions were not clear - to me at least - and it was a bit of a pain.

The 4PK has so many features, as does every radio out there, that I only utilize 10% of they are capable of.

On an unrelated note, the OS Speed is broken in and I L-O-V-E it. Beautiful sound and crazy power.
__________________
Accepting sponsors who need to test their products durability :)
drstrangelove is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 11:52 AM   #6
Tech Champion
 
jmackani's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Shippensburg
Posts: 5,595
Trader Rating: 14 (100%+)
Default

I am switching to a new radio with this feature specifically for off-road. After watching the pros braking in some of the corners, you can see they really pulse the brakes with their fingers. So, I figured why not have the radio do it for me.
__________________
LCRC Raceway http://www.lostcreekcycles.com/lcrc.htm
Proline Racing http:://www.prolineracing.com
jmackani is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 01:39 PM   #7
Tech Regular
 
Slider30250's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Eastern North Carolina
Posts: 428
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmackani View Post
I am switching to a new radio with this feature specifically for off-road. After watching the pros braking in some of the corners, you can see they really pulse the brakes with their fingers. So, I figured why not have the radio do it for me.
Because you will wear out a throttle servo really quick. Just set your brake travel to a point just before the tires lock up and your good. You can go 100% brake with your finger and your RC will just stop without locking up the tires and sliding. When you get better at controlling the brakes with your finger you can dial in more brakes at the transmitter and just vary your finger for the desired effect.
__________________
Anyone can crash, I crash with style

Mugen MBX6R/Airtronics M11X/Ninja Engines/Sidewinder Fuel/EB Mods
Slider30250 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 02:03 PM   #8
Tech Elite
 
JFuel11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Central IL
Posts: 3,583
Trader Rating: 152 (100%+)
Default Great Response...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slider30250 View Post
Because you will wear out a throttle servo really quick. Just set your brake travel to a point just before the tires lock up and your good. You can go 100% brake with your finger and your RC will just stop without locking up the tires and sliding. When you get better at controlling the brakes with your finger you can dial in more brakes at the transmitter and just vary your finger for the desired effect.
I agree 100%... Teach your throttle finger to do the work...

I have played around with this feature a ton last year and yes it will wear out a servo faster but I would accept that if it was a huge help... I found that just when I get it set to where it seemed to do some good the track conditions would change to quickly to keep up with it...

Again teach your throttle finger how to do the work!

Good Luck
__________________
Alan Bachman (AKA - Johnny Rocket Fuel)
Help your fellow racers go faster... You will have more competition!!!
Sponsors:
RC America - XRay - Hudy - Maclan Racing - Xpert Servos - Schelle Racing Innovations - AKA Racing Products - DE Racing - Sticky Kicks - Sanwa
JFuel11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 02:20 PM   #9
Tech Regular
 
railer80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 267
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

Something I started out with. Go to a practice day and try driving with no brake smoothly around the track. Once you get that down, you'll be surprised at how much faster you are with brake.
__________________
JQ Products theCAR-CRE Novarossi theP5
railer80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 02:38 PM   #10
Tech Lord
 
Frank L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NorCal
Posts: 12,500
Trader Rating: 148 (100%+)
Default

I dont like the ABS for off road at all...
__________________
- X-Ray/ RC America Team Driver - MKS -
- XB8 - XB8T - XB8 E - OS Spec III - B2102 - 4PXR -
~ SSC ~ Godfather ~ Ironman ~ ButterySmooth ~
Frank L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 09:51 PM   #11
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 492
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Man I'm surprised at these comments. I love my abs system. I can set my end points/bias correctly but the problem I've always had are the changing conditions on our track. Sometimes its dry, dusty, more grip on the shaded parts, etc.... Those conditions will change your braking points and cause the truck to lock up when it normally wouldn't.

With my abs I no longer worry about that. My brakes a nearly perfect in all corners. If a particular part of the track is dusty the brakes wont lock which allows me to use the steering to make a correction.

It also allows me to run in a corner very deep to make a pass. The assurance knowing my wheels will never stop moving gives me that confidence.

I can say I'm way more consistent with it.

I can't say much about servo life though. I haven't had any problems,,,,,,,,,yet.
Franchise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 09:58 PM   #12
Tech Elite
 
JFuel11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Central IL
Posts: 3,583
Trader Rating: 152 (100%+)
Default Thanks for responding...

Thanks for letting us know it is working for you. Maybe it is something I have not played around with enough yet to find a setting I like.

Who knows.... Works in almost every other form of motorsports that allows it...

I have not personally found a setup I like with ABS but maybe worth another shot.
__________________
Alan Bachman (AKA - Johnny Rocket Fuel)
Help your fellow racers go faster... You will have more competition!!!
Sponsors:
RC America - XRay - Hudy - Maclan Racing - Xpert Servos - Schelle Racing Innovations - AKA Racing Products - DE Racing - Sticky Kicks - Sanwa
JFuel11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 10:53 PM   #13
Tech Fanatic
 
drstrangelove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Singapore
Posts: 867
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

I think I will give ABS a try this weekend and see the results and I will update what I find/feel. If it really add value, than it's great, servo are cheap, if ABS can make you win the race, so be it
__________________
Accepting sponsors who need to test their products durability :)
drstrangelove is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 05:11 PM   #14
Tech Master
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,582
Default

I never your ABS.... Even on full scale cars...
__________________
#WeAreAE The Forum - RCTen.com
My R/C Blog - MyRCBox.com
Sylvain is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 11:27 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net