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Old 08-07-2011, 10:24 AM   #1
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So many years ago I used to race carpet onroad, was sponsored, had a lot of fun, and eventually fell out of the hobby. I did dabble in 10th scale electric offroad buggies and trucks too. Well two years ago I wanted to try some nitro off road cause it looked cool, and bought a used OFNA buggy and gear. Went to the local track and was getting all kind of radio interference and was not having a great time. The few laps I did put down were a blast. Now I want to try again, but do what I should have the first time. I need to get a decent RTR with a good radio, and sell all the crap I bought on craigslist for next to nothing to get it out of my sight. Looking at the Losi 810, I don't want the best thing out there, just something to have fun with. Would it be a good re-starter 1/8 nitro buggy, or is there something else I should look at? Only thought Losi because those were the offroad cars I previously had owned.
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Personally, I'd look at the 8ight 2.0 RTR buggy from Losi for just a little more. Better radio and the buggy is better (IMO). The 810 is basically the original and it shares the basic same setup as the Losi Ten-T truggy. The 2.0 buggy has a longer chassis and a bit beefier components. Plus it comes with basically everything you need to run. It's what I was going to buy but have decided to stick with 1/8 truggys. My other recommendation is to buy whatever you local hobby shop has parts for. Otherwise, you gotta buy your parts online and wait.
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do you mean the one with the starter box and everything? Yeah, eyeing that now. Looks like the way to go, my local shop shows they have it in stock right now, and pretty sure they stock the parts for it. How well does the telemetry work? I mean can I trust the head temp readings for break in purposes?
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Yup, that's the one. It's like $75 or $100 more I think. The telemetry was pretty close to what my temp gun reads. Within about 5-10 degrees the last time I checked it. I used it mainly for eyeballing my tune. But, I tune more by ear and smoke trail than anything. The longer 2.0 chassis helps with stability too. My Ten-T with 17mm buggy tires on it was pretty quirky around the track. Big bumps was okay, it was the little quick bumps that would upset it.
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The 2.0 RTR is the only RTR I would recomend. It will need a servo upgrade
right out of the box but the rest of the package will get you started without
to much frustration. Unless your budget locks you into an RTR I would look
at building your own chassis and choosing the rest of your gear. It will be
more expensive to start but you will save yourself from the endless upgrades
needed to bring most RTRs to a competetive and reliable level.
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It's like $75 or $100 more I think.
I think you mean $300.....going to head to the local shop this week to check it out. Wish I didn't blow the whole summer before I decided to do this....
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The 2.0 RTR is the only RTR I would recomend. It will need a servo upgrade
right out of the box but the rest of the package will get you started without
to much frustration. Unless your budget locks you into an RTR I would look
at building your own chassis and choosing the rest of your gear. It will be
more expensive to start but you will save yourself from the endless upgrades
needed to bring most RTRs to a competetive and reliable level.
He makes a good point and i forgot to mention that about the servos. They will last you for a couple of races at least.
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I think you mean $300.....going to head to the local shop this week to check it out. Wish I didn't blow the whole summer before I decided to do this....
Huh, at my LHS the 810 was $499 and the 8ight 2.0 was $610. RCPlanet.com has the 810 for $419 and the 8ight 2.0 for $699.

There are several guys on this board that do race the 810. You can search, there is a 810 thread on here somewhere.
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Mugen MBX-6 Roller 509.99
Novarossi N21B 179.99
Thunder Tiger 3-Chamber EFRA 2035 Tuned Pipe 50.99
Savox SC-1258TG Standard Digital 69.99 X 2
Spektrum DX3C DSM 3-Channel Surface Radio 129.99
OFNA Truggy Starter Box 94.99
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So for around 1200.00 you can get a far better rig than
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the servos are that bad? Are you talking the 810, or 2.0 or both? And yes I understand for DOUBLE the price I can get a better rig. I just want to get started and have some fun (and kick some arse).
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As far as I know they use the same servo in both kits.
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Well I'll beat them to the ground, and replace them when needed. Probably won't get a whole lot of track time this year, so I have all winter to make adjustments. Or do I just forget this season and get what I want? I didn't think the Losi 2.0 was a bad rig, maybe needs a few upgrades. But the Mugen? Do I really need that? Just want to relive my glory days on the carpet oval with a few passes on the outside...
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for starters, you can move the steering servo to throttle position. It has a speed of .15 and enouph tourqe for it and just upgrade the stearing. I think savox is best for the money. I have 590 doing throttle on my buggy that's 3 years old and never replaced it. I don't think you can tell a difference in throttle speed, but you do need good tourque numbers to hold the stearing.
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I just want to thank those who have replied, I'm sure you guys get sick of the "what buggy should I buy" threads. And I'm kinda sorry for posting another. Think I will get the 2.0 this week, and upgrade as needed, I have always been a Losi guy. Unless you can provide reasons to not. I just want to get back out on the track, good thing I kept the EZ UP.....
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the servos are that bad? Are you talking the 810, or 2.0 or both? And yes I understand for DOUBLE the price I can get a better rig. I just want to get started and have some fun (and kick some arse).
Yes the servos are that bad. Some people dont even get a tank in before the
throttle one fails. In my opinion the WORST thing you can do is upgrade the
steering unit and move another cheap one into the throttle position. Think
about it for a second. Worst case if you have a steering unit fail is a small
crash, you still have throttle and brake control. When the throttle unit goes
it usually pins the throttle wide open. Cheap servos also have alot of resistance
when powered off. Most will not return with throttle return bands
or reasonable springs, when you do spring it up tight enough to return if you
lose power the cheap servos either cant overcome the resitance or you simply
speed up the ineveitable failure. Upgrade both or do the throttle one first.

Yes that rig is twice the money, but its also twice as reliable and alot more
competetive. The 2.0 RTR is NOT the normal Eight 2.0, there are quite a few
differences between the Team Kit and the RTR and once you realize the difference
it starts you down a long and expensive upgrade path.

The Mugen is a proven chassis that will serve you well if you do your part,
and all the other gear I recommended will not only get you on the track but
will be competetive and reliable once you get there.

DNFs and DNSs are quickest way to sap any fun racing.
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