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Old 07-19-2011, 05:30 PM   #16
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thank you gentlemen. I've been leaning towards the serpent more and more as of late. And your comments just made me 100% decide on serpent. It almost comes down to you get what you pay for, and i would rather spend a little more up front to get a great buggy/truggy then spend bucketload on uprgades just to make it equal
If you believe that you get what you pay for, why did you leave the Kyosho out of the mix. As the most expensive buggy on the planet, wouldn't it be the best?
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Old 07-19-2011, 05:37 PM   #17
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If you believe that you get what you pay for, why did you leave the Kyosho out of the mix. As the most expensive buggy on the planet, wouldn't it be the best?
Lol......right
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Old 07-19-2011, 06:24 PM   #18
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If you believe that you get what you pay for, why did you leave the Kyosho out of the mix. As the most expensive buggy on the planet, wouldn't it be the best?
The principle of diminishing returns?
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Old 07-19-2011, 06:59 PM   #19
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The Hara kit might need some captured hinge pins out of the box and it's good to go, other than shock oil or spring changes you might want to make from the kit setup.
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Old 07-19-2011, 10:43 PM   #20
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kyosho is grade A as well is serpent


personal preference , local driver support and parts availability should play a HUGE factor in your overall decision
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I own both...Both are really good. both cars have their own issues as will any other out there. Both are easy to drive and both are durable. D8/T needs hinge pins and pretty much bullet proof...811/T needs bearings..stock ones suck. I blew the rear diff ones on the first outing...rear hub ones on the 3rd. Other than that, both are awesome and need nothing more. Just my .02 cents
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I own both...Both are really good. both cars have their own issues as will any other out there. Both are easy to drive and both are durable. D8/T needs hinge pins and pretty much bullet proof...811/T needs bearings..stock ones suck. I blew the rear diff ones on the first outing...rear hub ones on the 3rd. Other than that, both are awesome and need nothing more. Just my .02 cents
Got 1½ gallons through mine and still havent had to replace any bearings.
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Got 1½ gallons through mine and still havent had to replace any bearings.
Serpent is saying that the bearings in the newer kits are ok. I had the same bearing issue.
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Got 1½ gallons through mine and still havent had to replace any bearings.
I checked mine and they were all smooth as butter. I'll keep an eye on them, but I'm not concerned anymore after I checked them. The Serpent is one fine machine, and it can take a severe beating without a fuss, I love it.
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