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Old 05-05-2011, 10:11 AM   #31
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One where Ryan Lutz is there to answer questions all day everyday
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One where Ryan Lutz is there to answer questions all day everyday
LMAO......he would go crazy!
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:51 AM   #33
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one thing I hate is to walk into a hobbyshop and have them say "no I dont have that but I can order it for you"
we have Amainhobbies and Absolute Hobbyz, I can order it too and probably get it for cheaper thanmost will sell it for. I think Dirt Burners in MI understands this and stocks a crapload of stock.
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racing is a VERY, VERY small portion of this hobby, "bashers" of all kinds planes, boats, helis, crawlers, cars make up 80% or more of this hobby.
I don't know if I would agree here. I think it depends on the region that you are in. I would have to say that it is the other way around in SA, Texas. There are a lot of folks that race and bash, and a bunch of us that race only. I'm not sure how big our air community is here however.
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If the major online stores would start franchise tracks since they are taking business away from mom and pop shops. That would help the stocking of parts issue, sample rides, advertising, promoting etc. I try to support local tracks when possible.But if there could be more diversity for hobbyists to all gather to it'd be cool. But like previously posted, imagine the rent?
Or at least help sponsor local tracks in various forms. It would be cool to have both on-road and off at the same site though...
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Old 05-05-2011, 11:53 AM   #36
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Hey Everyone,
I'm here today with a few questions and i'm looking for everybody's feedback on this.

If you could walk in to your dream hobby shop what would it look like?


Hey Ryan!

First- Its got to be clean. Gonna need some memorabilia, like a worlds car from some big names, and some of their trophies from big races hung on the wall for people to gaze at.


What would they have on-site that would make your experience even better?
Would things like a permanent concession stand be nice?


Yes it would. New things like cab forward bodies, new kits, a person at the counter who knows what he's talking about is also a big plus! Must have the "new" stuff on the block. Its nothing to walk into my local hobby shops, ask them about a new part coming out, and them having never heard of it.


When it came to races there what would be a fair price to race a club night?
What's a fair practice fee for all day in your eyes?

$10 first class, $8 for every other class. Families are $8 and $6.

Do you like attending races that are part of a series or are individual?

Definetely a weekly point series, but it would also need a series with other tracks involved.

Would weekly small awards for club races like ribbons or little plaques or hobby shop discounts keep you coming back?

Bee at RJD gives little tiny plaques on club nights, they are really neat, but to be honest I usually end up throwing them away at some point.

What would make you willing to purchase parts and kits at said hobby shop instead of online?

Have it in stock. My main reason for ordering online- I have a 60 mile drive to the hobby shop as it is, why would I want to drive another 120 miles the next week to pick it up when I could have it shipped to my door? lol

If this new hobby shop opened up and you ran for brand "X" but this hobby shop carried every part available for brands "Y" "Z" and "Q" would you entertain switching to one of those brands?

[COLOR="red"]Not really, but if the owner was a nice/persuasive guy, it could happen eventually.[/COLOR

]What are hobby shops not doing today that they need to do if they want to survive in your eyes?

Having the correct parts in stock. And tracks need to create more smaller series with 2-3 tracks involved.

Thank you everyone for your feedback. Please try to stay on topic as much as possible. I'm hoping for a good long thread with lots of great feedback!
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Old 05-05-2011, 04:04 PM   #37
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i store i can walk into and they have the parts i am looking for.. seems like when every you go to the store they never/rarely have the parts you need... that is my ideal hobby store.. jeremy
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Ryan,

My eyesight and hearing gets worse every year. Since there's no sound here I'll speak to the eyesight issue.

Here's what I might be seeing between the lines.
Is it feasible for "racer oriented" hobby stores to prosper?

The answer: "Build it and they will come" **




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I only have one thing to add beyond what has already been said. I go to a park 60 miles away versus one 15 miles away because my two boys are able to race for free. Even though the gas equalizes the cost difference I still prefer to patron that track.

Have a significant discount for children under 12 and you will pull fathers in more consistently because now it's "family time" vs "guy time".
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I own a "racer oriented" hobby shop. I stock nothing but 8 scale Nitro stuff with all the trimmings and I can tell you its not profitable. I have about 20-30 core customers that come to me for everything and maybe 5% of my business is walk in's. I am lucky though because I own a 25,000 square foot Furniture store and I moved the Hobby shop inside my Furniture store so I have absolutely no overhead expenses at all. When it was in its own dedicated location we lost money every month until we were forced to close it and move it. I can tell you this Ryan, do lots of homework first before you move forward and remember that you will never be able to compete with Ebay kit breakers or Tower hobbies
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:24 PM   #41
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I own a "racer oriented" hobby shop. I stock nothing but 8 scale Nitro stuff with all the trimmings and I can tell you its not profitable. I have about 20-30 core customers that come to me for everything and maybe 5% of my business is walk in's. I am lucky though because I own a 25,000 square foot Furniture store and I moved the Hobby shop inside my Furniture store so I have absolutely no overhead expenses at all. When it was in its own dedicated location we lost money every month until we were forced to close it and move it. I can tell you this Ryan, do lots of homework first before you move forward and remember that you will never be able to compete with Ebay kit breakers or Tower hobbies
You can Compete with Ebay Breakers if you buy Kits and Brake them down at the hobby shop and sale the parts just like the guys do on ebay. I will buy my parts in a Zip Lock sack and be happy about it if i can get them for a lot less then the part in a factory package.

I dont know way a hobby shop dont do that they can get Kits Brake it down it to parts and put them up on the shelf in Zip lock sacks with the part number and what part it is and fits printed off a computer. And use guys could save a TON of money and the Shop could make some money.
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You can Compete with Ebay Breakers if you buy Kits and Brake them down at the hobby shop and sale the parts just like the guys do on ebay. I will buy my parts in a Zip Lock sack and be happy about it if i can get them for a lot less then the part in a factory package.

I dont know way a hobby shop dont do that they can get Kits Brake it down it to parts and put them up on the shelf in Zip lock sacks with the part number and what part it is and fits printed off a computer. And use guys could save a TON of money and the Shop could make some money.
Correct me if I am wrong, not too sure if an authorized dealer is allowed do that. If all hobby shops/dealers buy kits only, break them up and don't buy parts, the manufacturer sure ain't going to be happy...
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You can Compete with Ebay Breakers if you buy Kits and Brake them down at the hobby shop and sale the parts just like the guys do on ebay. I will buy my parts in a Zip Lock sack and be happy about it if i can get them for a lot less then the part in a factory package.

I dont know way a hobby shop dont do that they can get Kits Brake it down it to parts and put them up on the shelf in Zip lock sacks with the part number and what part it is and fits printed off a computer. And use guys could save a TON of money and the Shop could make some money.
This will not fly if you own a shop and have accounts with the manufacturers. You can not compare Ebay to a REAL SHOP OWNER. Shops have rules they have to follow. Ebay sellers do this out of there home or something, not a "real" business.
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From what I am told. The eBay kit breaker guys make there profits from the shipping and handling charges not the parts. Remember that most of them are buying the kits at street price, not dealer cost. The real killer is Great Planes, who is one of if not "the" largest RC wholesale vendor in the USA. They own Tower Hobbies and with the coupons they send out to their customers it takes the public prices down below dealer cost. How the hell can any shop compete with that?
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hey ryan

I had all te money of his world. I woud creat my wn " RC WORLD PARK" ,I am talking just no a hobby... a place whre i can spent time wih y friends and have a hole kind of atractions..

first thin hobby itself.. one word... BIG... with a1/12 indoor carpet on road
track
Racing sports bar.. big tv's.. with videos of all kind of racing.. F1,nascar, rally.. r/c cars..

indoor off road track like the neo track.. races 40 $ with good trophys... with the modality of endurance races with celebrities once a year... Ex: hara with Michael Schumacher.... ryan lutz with sebastian loeb... reno savoya with fernando alonso and etc etc.. for 2 h main.. that will be cool

open on road track like the track of the worlds in argentina...

the option rent the car of a pro... for $$$ you can race the car of ryan lutz, hara, drake, savoya,truhe on this race

that will be it
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