Electric vs nitro discussion
04-02-2011, 09:53 AM
#46
I understand what you're saying....but I'm staying where I am.
I will never go nitro....started off electric and will stay that way.
But I get kinda irritated when the nitro only guys quote these big prices on what components cost.
A good Castle system from Amain for 1/8 buggy/truggy is $270. I picked up a MMM ESC for $144 shipped from them and bought a 1800Kv motor direct from Castle for $80 shipped. Far cry from $330 which is probably a Tekin system that someone quoted.
A decent AC/DC charger is $200. A Turnigy Nanotech 5000Mah 4S lipo from HobbyKing is only $54. If people want to spend $200 on a comparable battery from Maxamps, then thats their decision.
But dont scare others into thinking thats what they have to pay to get into this hobby.
And the stories of smoking ESC's and flaming lipo's, you all know that the handful of people (compared to the 1000's that work flawlessly) that post their tale dont tell the whole story most of the time. I mean, its not like a nitro RC can go up in flames, can they?
You guys really dont want to brag about how your nitro are better than electric and the costs involved between each anyways. When you add it all up, its probably very similar.
Lets see, we only have to buy 1 servo.
There's no tuning involved when the outside temperature changes.
Brake setup, click of the mouse away when programming.
Starter box? Whats that? Glow plug? I dont have a diesel!
Warm up time? Wtf, I'm ready to go.
Want a trial run in your house? No prob, even the wife cant smell an electric.
Instantaneous torque? Check. Breakneck speeds? You bet.
Noise bylaw? Yep, it passes.
And to those that want to argue that nitro is more "realistic" because of the sound of the engine, when's the last time you heard a 1:1 Monster truck that sounds like angry bees?
I mean, come on.
There, I feel better now.
I will never go nitro....started off electric and will stay that way.
But I get kinda irritated when the nitro only guys quote these big prices on what components cost.
A good Castle system from Amain for 1/8 buggy/truggy is $270. I picked up a MMM ESC for $144 shipped from them and bought a 1800Kv motor direct from Castle for $80 shipped. Far cry from $330 which is probably a Tekin system that someone quoted.
A decent AC/DC charger is $200. A Turnigy Nanotech 5000Mah 4S lipo from HobbyKing is only $54. If people want to spend $200 on a comparable battery from Maxamps, then thats their decision.
But dont scare others into thinking thats what they have to pay to get into this hobby.
And the stories of smoking ESC's and flaming lipo's, you all know that the handful of people (compared to the 1000's that work flawlessly) that post their tale dont tell the whole story most of the time. I mean, its not like a nitro RC can go up in flames, can they?
You guys really dont want to brag about how your nitro are better than electric and the costs involved between each anyways. When you add it all up, its probably very similar.
Lets see, we only have to buy 1 servo.
There's no tuning involved when the outside temperature changes.
Brake setup, click of the mouse away when programming.
Starter box? Whats that? Glow plug? I dont have a diesel!
Warm up time? Wtf, I'm ready to go.
Want a trial run in your house? No prob, even the wife cant smell an electric.
Instantaneous torque? Check. Breakneck speeds? You bet.
Noise bylaw? Yep, it passes.
And to those that want to argue that nitro is more "realistic" because of the sound of the engine, when's the last time you heard a 1:1 Monster truck that sounds like angry bees?
I mean, come on.There, I feel better now.
04-02-2011, 10:12 AM
#48
To me most of the fun besides actually driving comes from tuning engines and messing with clutches. I love working on pit strategy and trying to squeeze more time out of a tank than my competitors can. I just love working on and running nitro engines. That's something that can never be replaced.
I also like long races. Honestly I don't think I could live with running 10 minute mains every time I raced. It just isn't worth it. Not enough track time. Not enough time to actually get into the race and into a rhythm. No pit stops to make things interesting. No reward for a good pit strategy. No reward for having a car that can withstand 30-45 minutes of straight abuse. To me those things make racing much more interesting. It isn't all about the driving. There's more variables when running nitro and when you get them all right it is much more rewarding.
Electric cars are a lot of fun to drive, but they will never replace nitro. They're just too fake. Nitro cars are real.
I also like long races. Honestly I don't think I could live with running 10 minute mains every time I raced. It just isn't worth it. Not enough track time. Not enough time to actually get into the race and into a rhythm. No pit stops to make things interesting. No reward for a good pit strategy. No reward for having a car that can withstand 30-45 minutes of straight abuse. To me those things make racing much more interesting. It isn't all about the driving. There's more variables when running nitro and when you get them all right it is much more rewarding.
Electric cars are a lot of fun to drive, but they will never replace nitro. They're just too fake. Nitro cars are real.
04-02-2011, 10:27 AM
#50
04-02-2011, 10:31 AM
#51
Truthfully
Nitro = Apples
Electric = Oranges
They are both fun within their own respect.
04-02-2011, 10:46 AM
#52
As a full time electric racer who's never run nitro I have a question for all you nitro guys. You have a sc10 with sidewinder sct esc castle 5700 and a Orion 3800 carbon fiber lipo
Should I trade for a 2.0 buggy with novarossi .21 with a jp3 pipe and airtronics servos?
Should I do it
Should I trade for a 2.0 buggy with novarossi .21 with a jp3 pipe and airtronics servos?
Should I do it
04-02-2011, 10:56 AM
#53
As a full time electric racer who's never run nitro I have a question for all you nitro guys. You have a sc10 with sidewinder sct esc castle 5700 and a Orion 3800 carbon fiber lipo
Should I trade for a 2.0 buggy with novarossi .21 with a jp3 pipe and airtronics servos?
Should I do it
Should I trade for a 2.0 buggy with novarossi .21 with a jp3 pipe and airtronics servos?
Should I do it
04-02-2011, 11:50 AM
#55
Tech Master
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Nitro is just a straight mess, and smells like @$$! Electric is much neater. Especially since I have limited storage for these...electric is wayyy more convenient and more hassle free. People will say I prefer electric "because I lack tuning skills", but really I just do not have the time to sit and tune something for hours when I can go electric, get the same speeds (actually faster) and have one less thing to worry about in my day...ie the tuning aspect!! If I had hours upon hours to sit around...maybe I would sing another tune...but probably not! Just my 2 cents...
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04-02-2011, 12:44 PM
#57
Electric refines your nitro skills and it's a good way to pass time at races especially if your the last heat on a 25 heat race day
04-02-2011, 01:14 PM
#58
Nitro is just a straight mess, and smells like @$$! Electric is much neater. Especially since I have limited storage for these...electric is wayyy more convenient and more hassle free. People will say I prefer electric "because I lack tuning skills", but really I just do not have the time to sit and tune something for hours when I can go electric, get the same speeds (actually faster) and have one less thing to worry about in my day...ie the tuning aspect!! If I had hours upon hours to sit around...maybe I would sing another tune...but probably not! Just my 2 cents...
I'm in the same boat as you, I haven't had a chance to clean my buggy from a race that was over a month ago, but I still prefer to run Nitro 'cause electric just doesn't excite my senses like good old glow fuel does.
Remember 1/10 Gas Truck? Drove one once, insane how much power that tiny engine had.
04-02-2011, 01:16 PM
#59
man get rid of this tread its just turning into a bash fest
everytime theres a tread on the nitro vs electric.
everytime theres a tread on the nitro vs electric.
04-02-2011, 01:18 PM
#60
I would never thought guy's with knowledge would post electric is just plug & play so there diff just plug in the shock re builds just plug in and I bet they solider them self to or just plug in the iron all done by its self. with all due respect a 7yr old can tune a nitro motor it KILL ME to see a guy that thinks he can tune a motor and NO ONE else cant wrong come on dude its very simple to tune a high & low speed needle metering vale its not rocket science with all the forums & youtube a monkey can tune a nitro motor now days...
I think why some nitro guys dis like electric because they can send there nitro motor to ANY motor guy to get it modded then some guy show up with a Taiwan electric can and it SPANKS there nitro all over the track SORRY thats just electric power it faster SORRY still there no reason to say they have less skills and its a brain dead class guys plug & play I THINK NOT
Electric & Lipo is here to stay so get over it or at least get use to it at most tracks E-Buggy is the fast class WE should be descusing the pros & cons of the nitro & electric not yours is better than my class and if you dont run what I run you have plug & play skills total BS
I think why some nitro guys dis like electric because they can send there nitro motor to ANY motor guy to get it modded then some guy show up with a Taiwan electric can and it SPANKS there nitro all over the track SORRY thats just electric power it faster SORRY still there no reason to say they have less skills and its a brain dead class guys plug & play I THINK NOT
Electric & Lipo is here to stay so get over it or at least get use to it at most tracks E-Buggy is the fast class WE should be descusing the pros & cons of the nitro & electric not yours is better than my class and if you dont run what I run you have plug & play skills total BS
well you say theres all these 1/8 e well not at my outdoor offroad track .
so its not at every track.